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Chinese military tech will surpass Russian tech within 10 years


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According to an internal Kremlin study...in less than ten years China will have little use for Russian-made military hardware given the country's massive indigenous R&D investments. It is thus less surprising that Russia has been selling China some of its most advanced military hardware including Sukhoi Su-35S (NATO reporting name: Flanker-E) fighter jets and S-400 Triumf interceptor-based long-range air defense systems (NATO reporting name: SA-21 Growler) given that the Chinese market, it is assumed, will soon dry up for Russian imports.

https://worldview.st...a-military-ties

 

I've made previous threads on this forum describing China's military advances, and estimating that their level of military technology had either surpassed Russia's or was soon going to do so. 


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Not surprising, given how they're economy has dwarfed Russia's for some time now. More money means more fun things to spend it on.



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Russians will have no choice but to get warier of China.


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Russians will have no choice but to get warier of China.

Conversely, their relationship might get stronger. Russian military tech is still nothing to scoff at, so combining Russian and Chinese tech would mean the West would truly face a legitimate threat.


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Russians will have no choice but to get warier of China.

Conversely, their relationship might get stronger. Russian military tech is still nothing to scoff at, so combining Russian and Chinese tech would mean the West would truly face a legitimate threat.

 

Russia and China don't really like each other much, they only stand together because they have historically needed to to take on the Western world.



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Prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union, the "Cold War" was a bit of a three ring circus. 

 

Nixon supporters boasted of how Nixon "played the China card" against the Soviet Union. Before that, China and Russia put on the veneer of being allies.  Yet, just beneath the surface, nationalistic considerations created severe tensions.  In 1969, the correspondent Harrison Salisbury even wrote a book entitled War Between Russia and China in which he dwelled on the possibility of an eminent war between the two countries. 

 

In the early years of the Chinese revolution, Mao was a bit of a puppet of the Soviet Union.  As control over China was consolidated, Mao demonstrated increasing independence from the Soviet bloc.  So much so that while most Communist movements throughout the world were sponsored by the Soviets, many leftists came to consider themselves Maoists. Mao was a prolific writer, so his stature among Communists came to rival Marx, Lenin, and Stalin.

 

If the past is any indication, I expect that future Sino-Russian relations will oscillate through time.  Sometimes they will be allies, sometimes bitter foes, sometimes something in between. Some of that will depend upon whether they each view Europe and the United States and /or Europe as enemies, or merely economic rivals. That too may oscillate through time. Too me, it is obviously in everybody's interests to "just get along."  Unfortunately there will probably always be hardliners  who scoff at such sentiments as being hopelessly utopian.  So humanity may very well end up choosing between "hopelessly utopian" ideals, or self-incineration. Welcome to our planet folks. 


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The article says more on how advanced Russia is than it does how close China is to catching up. It's not like the Russians are stagnant, they're fighting proxy wars in Syria and Ukraine, building theory and experience. Wars they are winning considerably in. Also, cyber warfare and security.

I'd give it a couple more decades for China to reach the same quality in their military as Russia.
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The article says more on how advanced Russia is than it does how close China is to catching up. It's not like the Russians are stagnant, they're fighting proxy wars in Syria and Ukraine, building theory and experience. Wars they are winning considerably in. Also, cyber warfare and security.

I'd give it a couple more decades for China to reach the same quality in their military as Russia.

The article references an internal Kremlin study in which the Russians admit that China will achieve military technology parity within 10 years. Presumably, the Russians who did the analysis took into account the pace of both countries' technological improvement when they extrapolated when the two lines would cross. 


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The article says more on how advanced Russia is than it does how close China is to catching up. It's not like the Russians are stagnant, they're fighting proxy wars in Syria and Ukraine, building theory and experience. Wars they are winning considerably in. Also, cyber warfare and security.

I'd give it a couple more decades for China to reach the same quality in their military as Russia.

The article references an internal Kremlin study in which the Russians admit that China will achieve military technology parity within 10 years. Presumably, the Russians who did the analysis took into account the pace of both countries' technological improvement when they extrapolated when the two lines would cross.
Outlook was also accounting for tactical and logistical knowledge which the study omitted. And while I know the point of the study was to only discuss tech. Outlook was broadening the conversation by opening the room to what other elements make a military effective. If I'm wrong feel free to correct me btw.
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