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Air pollution in the far future


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Hello people.

 

I don`t know if this is the right section to post this one here, so I`d like to know what could be the psychological effects if in the far future air pollution and global dimming become so severe that sky color and sun brightness changed. For exemple if these two artifitial phenomena changed sky color from light blue to reddish or grey for exemple and sunlight becomes dimmer and more ''transluscent'' and less bright. Would depression cases soar if such thing happen? How could people cope with such ugly and unhealthy thing?

 

This is Los Angeles sky in the recent movie Blade runner 2049. It looks much better than in the 1982 version but Earth look like lifeless .mars:

 

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Notice the orangish sky and the scene don`t have any plant at all. It looks like Mars and I wonder how the man is breathing there. Whatever, this is an intellectual property and the creator has the right to create it as they want.


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Why would there be so much air pollution? Fossil fuels will be almost completely phased out within 50 years.

 

All vehicles and pretty much every technology will be carbon neutral.

 

Many large-scale projects will be underway to make the world carbon negative.

 

Unless there's some global or continental event like a nuclear conflict, or massive industrial disaster, I don't see the Blade Runner vision above becoming a reality.

 

Even if this did happen, people could use AR to mitigate the effects, e.g. built into contact lenses or other implants.


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...This is Los Angeles sky in the recent movie Blade runner 2049....

 

I am 90% sure that's GTA screenshot? Why are all the edges jagged?

 

EDIT: ah i see, its a GTA MOD recreation of a scene from the movie.



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Keep in mind that the first Blade Runner movie predicted that it would always be dark outside in 2019, and that there would be huge smokestacks in the middle of Los Angeles. The franchise is a poor predictor of the future.


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The only reason I could think of for a perpetually darkened sky like that in the future is a nuclear winter after we've devolved into another world war.


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Apparently, the red sky was inspired by a dust storm that hit Sydney, Australia in 2009:

https://www.pedestri...tch-dust-storm/

THe U.S. has been hit with very large dust storms like that in the past, during the Dust Bowl. It lasted from 1930 to 1936. The cause was severe drought and poor management of the farmlands to prevent wind erosion; severe drought is definitely something that could arise due to climate change. Los Angeles is blocked by mountains, and is already in a very dry region, so we'd probably not see something like that happening again there -- but dust storms have hit the LA area in the past.

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Why would there be so much air pollution? Fossil fuels will be almost completely phased out within 50 years.

 

All vehicles and pretty much every technology will be carbon neutral.

 

Many large-scale projects will be underway to make the world carbon negative.

 

Unless there's some global or continental event like a nuclear conflict, or massive industrial disaster, I don't see the Blade Runner vision above becoming a reality.

 

Even if this did happen, people could use AR to mitigate the effects, e.g. built into contact lenses or other implants.

Yep. Either we remove all the causes of major air pollution (as we're trying to do) or we are destroyed by nuclear war or climate change— which, of course, also prevents said sights. 

 

Either way, it's just not happening unless we really find a new and frightening way to fuck up and manage to turn Earth into Venus. Dust storms are perfectly natural, and those will inevitably happen. But I can't see a perpetual dust or smog storm anywhere.

Even China's cleaning up.

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Actually, to answer OP's question, we are living in this "future" right now if you only include China, India, and some other places. China's reducing it, and it's rising in India and Africa, but it's not permanent.


And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.


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Speaking of Blade Runner, here's a picture from the first movie.

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Whoops, that's actually of Beijing in 2013. And yes, that's smog, not fog. 

Dystopian works like Blade Runner depict a world where we simply let this happen and there's nothing done to clean it up. 

In real life, we do allow things to deteriorate, but we will always try to clean things up once we realize how broken everything is.

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And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.


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We need to build a deliberately dystopian looking cyberpunk city somewhere, where massive fog machines generate the appearance of the out of control industrail future we all secretly think looks awesome. 

 

If Dry Ice wasn't literally releasing loads of CO2 into the atmosphere then we could use that, as it is using water vapour would look fine, but would make everything damp, and since its a high tech cybercity that could lead to problems. 

 

Most forms of dust would probably cause problems with peoples lungs long term, although we could have everyone use bad ass breathing apparatus when they went outside, which would help with the ambiance even more.


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We need to build a deliberately dystopian looking cyberpunk city somewhere, where massive fog machines generate the appearance of the out of control industrail future we all secretly think looks awesome. 

 

 

 

Yeah, I would love to live in a city like that. 

 

Everyone looking cyberpunk as well, would be a plus. :D 


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We need to build a deliberately dystopian looking cyberpunk city somewhere, where massive fog machines generate the appearance of the out of control industrail future we all secretly think looks awesome. 

 

 

 

Yeah, I would love to live in a city like that. 

 

Everyone looking cyberpunk as well, would be a plus. :D

 

 

It wouldn't surprise me if this does happen, although it could be superseded by FIVR. Not just cyberpunk dystopian cities, but places like Westworld could be popular too.






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