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Poll: Jeffrey Epstein murder or suicide (9 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you believe Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?

  1. Yes – it was suicide (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. No – he was murdered (6 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  3. Other / not sure (3 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

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Please vote in above poll.


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It's my favourite conspiracy theory so far.
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Ok, I will admit it. I am one of those who marked the Other/Not Sure box.

 

The thing is I worked for government agencies for most of my life.  Learned that some conspiracy theories were right on the mark, while others were just a matter of paranoia getting the best of people.  This from an insider's perspective.

 

That experience also makes me a little more sympathetic to the stupidity defense.  Especially when we are dealing with a facility that was chronically under-funded.  Who knew that anybody else gave a damn about this suicidal nut case?

 

Of course, another major reason is that I simply have not followed that particular story that closely.  Enough to be slightly interested, but not enough to come to any definitive conclusion.


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What are the chances of BOTH security cameras being down at the same time, AND the guards failing to check on him for several hours (despite him being on suicide watch)? AND a cell mate was supposed to be with him. The whole thing is ridiculous.
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Not only that, it was a moment when there was huge media and press coverage on him, that would be large enough reason for any prison or even prison guard to hold special focus over his detainment. And the last guy who committed suicide in that prison was in 1998.

I think if he wasn't killed, he was "allowed" to kill himself. I can certainly understand why a man in his position would kill himself.
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At first I thought he was allowed to kill himself, but assassination doesn't seem too far-fetched. Either way I'm convinced there was foul play. I can't remember any prisoner who both had so many powerful people wanting him dead and who was most likely to kill themselves. It was my naive assumption that he would have unparalleled levels of surveillance (e.g. two guards watching at all times, regular check ups, multiple cameras connected through different systems with multiple fail safes etc.) and therefore there would be zero chance of him being able to commit suicide, especially considering he attempted suicide just weeks earlier. Being taken off suicide watch is just unfathomable and unbelievable to me. This is really the only popular conspiracy theory I subscribe to.


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