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Sequel to the President Trump News and Discussions thread. I imagine this one won't be as "exciting" as its prequel, for better or worse. 

 

What will the future of the USA and the world look like with Biden as president? Obviously not as chaotic, but again, that may not necessarily be a good thing. And Biden has inherited quite the budget crunch from President Trump: we're broke, economically and geopolitically. Our anti-left coups in South America failed completely, our allies don't trust us at all, and everyone is now thinking totally in terms of four years. Yes, we're probably going to unfuck ourselves by 2024, but who's to say we won't just elect someone even more disastrous than Trump and then proceed to fuck ourselves a new face? We just can't expect the USA to lead anymore because we've gone mad as a country— Trump exacerbated the madness, but he certainly didn't start it, and now that genie's free. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though I will say this: Biden's also inherited from Trump a front row seat to one of the big turning points of history. A turning point that Trump and his motley crew of fools were almost desperate to downplay and avoid discussing at their own risk of peril.


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So just want to make my prediction of this presidency but I feel that the left wing section of the party is going to undermine Biden during his presidency and we could very well see a Republican president back in 4 years... The first test will be these Georgia senate runoffs coming on January 5th to set the tone. These are critical when it comes to securing relief financing for the new focus that will be shown towards the COVID-19 pandemic, however if the left starts getting into fights over social policy such as "defund the police" before that time which is extremely unpopular in the States it could drive record Republican turnout in these races and assure a Republican senate which the left-wing of the Democratic party won't want to deal with, and potentially cripple the American economy. Biden has a very tight rope to win these races and it could set the tone for his presidency and as soon as COVID is brought under control there is a high chance his presidency could descend into chaos anyways as the left tries to assert itself...

 

Also I predict Trump is going to turn his attention to these races in one final blaze of campaign glory for him... securing the Senate for Republicans would be a final act of legacy building for him and also a chance to strike back vengeance on the Democrats... Democrats are going to have an uphill battle driving turnout here as with bogeyman of Trump gone they may see less motivation whereas Republicans may see more...



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Oh and other prediction: Biden's health will be a continuous point of discussion throughout this presidency... Kamala Harris will be watched closely... she feasibly may have to step in at some point or could even become a major force in directing policy towards the end...



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So much will depend on the results of the Georgia runoff elections for that state's two U.S. Senate seats. I am not optimistic, but I know that activists there are determined to translate what looks like a narrow victory for Biden in that state into a victory in those two races.

 

Absent Democrat control of the senate, Mitch McConnel will be in a strong position to water down anything on the legislative front, at least for the first two years of the Biden presidency. This may be critical in efforts to implement Biden's promises to implement tax increase for those earning over $400,000 a year, and for a dramatic Biden version of  a Green New Deal.  Some form of Covid-19 relief package will likely pass, but McConnel will insist upon a more trickle down approach.

 

Biden will be able to appoint a more reasonable set of cabinet members, repeal Trump executive orders, and reintroduce a more multi-lateral approach to addressing international climate and health issues.  

 

Biden's health may hold out better than others are supposing, but his advanced age definitely raises questions in that regard. 

 

His nomination and election represents a big win for centrists. His victory has strengthened the argument that the Democratic party needs a centrist to head the ticket in order to win the presidency. The Sanders wing of the party will need to do more to allay the fear of left extremism and socialism that many feel.  A tall order. The right will commence blaming Biden for anything and everything in the world that is not totally perfect.  Look, for some elements there to also simply make up things and blow other perceived faults way out of proportion. Biden will need to walk a tight rope of placating the left in his party, while at the same time feeling the need to demonstrate to the right that he is his own man and not an "extremist".  

 

Stay tuned folks for a return to normalcy.  Something that will help me preserve my sanity, even as I grieve at continued extreme inequality of wealth and progress in addressing global warming that is too slow.


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I hope Biden hires some Republicans to serve in his administration. It would be an important conciliatory gesture to conservative Americans and would show he was sincere about uniting the country. I think most Americans are weary of the partisan fighting and would be moved by such an act. 



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Not even 24 hours later... the left-wing Democratic lawmakers already beginning to undermine themselves... This is my problem with Democrats they have little capacity for introspection... or seeing the forest for the trees... this is going to hurt them into the special Senate elections...

 

https://www.theguard...emocratic-party



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Not even 24 hours later... the left-wing Democratic lawmakers already beginning to undermine themselves... This is my problem with Democrats they have little capacity for introspection... or seeing the forest for the trees... this is going to hurt them into the special Senate elections...

 

https://www.theguard...emocratic-party

 

Seems to be some misinterpreting of this interview. It was hitting the rest of the party on the lack of ground game, especially with canvassing and social media. I didn't totally agree with everything she said, but she made a point about how Obama's organizing entirely disappeared after 2008 and likely cost them big time nearly everywhere in 2010. Same thing will likely happen come 2022. Democrats are making no inroads and literally just sitting on crappy polls, holding a flimsy moderate message, and thinking they can waltz into reelection.

 

I also should add the the "left" stuff is at odds with many propositions that increased taxes in several cities to fund various projects including infrastructure. Arizona passed a state income surtax on higher earners to help fund schools, and Florida, in a total reversal of the presidential results, passed a $15 minimum wage. Marijuana was legalized in 4 states, both conservative and liberal ones.

 

Frankly, all democrats are called lefties and socialists are this point. The words are meaningless, only satisfying conservatives' confirmation bias.


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Not even 24 hours later... the left-wing Democratic lawmakers already beginning to undermine themselves... This is my problem with Democrats they have little capacity for introspection... or seeing the forest for the trees... this is going to hurt them into the special Senate elections...

 

https://www.theguard...emocratic-party

 

Seems to be some misinterpreting of this interview. It was hitting the rest of the party on the lack of ground game, especially with canvassing and social media. I didn't totally agree with everything she said, but she made a point about how Obama's organizing entirely disappeared after 2008 and likely cost them big time nearly everywhere in 2010. Same thing will likely happen come 2022. Democrats are making no inroads and literally just sitting on crappy polls, holding a flimsy moderate message, and thinking they can waltz into reelection.

 

I also should add the the "left" stuff is at odds with many propositions that increased taxes in several cities to fund various projects including infrastructure. Arizona passed a state income surtax on higher earners to help fund schools, and Florida, in a total reversal of the presidential results, passed a $15 minimum wage. Marijuana was legalized in 4 states, both conservative and liberal ones.

 

Frankly, all democrats are called lefties and socialists are this point. The words are meaningless, only satisfying conservatives' confirmation bias.

 

 

No my issue with her commentary is that she seems to assume that all issues that the Democrats had came down to digital presence. This won't cut it in the upcoming Georgia special elections which are critical to how the Biden presidency is going to unfold. The reality is right now the Democrats need to be flipping over those Georgian voters who put Biden at the top of the ticket yet Republicans for the rest. Going further left is unlikely to win this group over, I also don't think the Democrats can count on high turnout again in this state as many were just voting to get Trump out as shown in some of the exit polls, if they push too hard left they are going to deliver these Senate seats to the Republicans and cripple the incoming presidency... 

 

If these Democrats were smart they would be going to be trying to appeal to these voters rather than their left-base as they are what are going to determine these special elections. Once they have these seats they basically have 2 years where they can try to implement whatever they like before they face voters again in the midterms. However seems they are determined to sabotage themselves before they get started. No one has ever accused the left-wing of the Democratic party at being proficient strategists...



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Not even 24 hours later... the left-wing Democratic lawmakers already beginning to undermine themselves... This is my problem with Democrats they have little capacity for introspection... or seeing the forest for the trees... this is going to hurt them into the special Senate elections...

 

https://www.theguard...emocratic-party

 

Seems to be some misinterpreting of this interview. It was hitting the rest of the party on the lack of ground game, especially with canvassing and social media. I didn't totally agree with everything she said, but she made a point about how Obama's organizing entirely disappeared after 2008 and likely cost them big time nearly everywhere in 2010. Same thing will likely happen come 2022. Democrats are making no inroads and literally just sitting on crappy polls, holding a flimsy moderate message, and thinking they can waltz into reelection.

 

I also should add the the "left" stuff is at odds with many propositions that increased taxes in several cities to fund various projects including infrastructure. Arizona passed a state income surtax on higher earners to help fund schools, and Florida, in a total reversal of the presidential results, passed a $15 minimum wage. Marijuana was legalized in 4 states, both conservative and liberal ones.

 

Frankly, all democrats are called lefties and socialists are this point. The words are meaningless, only satisfying conservatives' confirmation bias.

 

 

No my issue with her commentary is that she seems to assume that all issues that the Democrats had came down to digital presence. This won't cut it in the upcoming Georgia special elections which are critical to how the Biden presidency is going to unfold. The reality is right now the Democrats need to be flipping over those Georgian voters who put Biden at the top of the ticket yet Republicans for the rest. Going further left is unlikely to win this group over, I also don't think the Democrats can count on high turnout again in this state as many were just voting to get Trump out as shown in some of the exit polls, if they push too hard left they are going to deliver these Senate seats to the Republicans and cripple the incoming presidency... 

 

If these Democrats were smart they would be going to be trying to appeal to these voters rather than their left-base as they are what are going to determine these special elections. Once they have these seats they basically have 2 years where they can try to implement whatever they like before they face voters again in the midterms. However seems they are determined to sabotage themselves before they get started. No one has ever accused the left-wing of the Democratic party at being proficient strategists...

 

She didn't say it all had to be digital, she did invoke canvassing and doorknocking as just as important. Those in particular helped Minnesota and Michigan boast better margins. I agree that just doing Facebook ain't gonna get it done, but ceding Facebook entirely to the right is definitely a problem by itself at least on strategy. 

 

I'm not sure who is saying we need to go left for the special elections. I read it as more the dems needing to change their ground game moving forward. Of course a left message isn't going to win everywhere. This notion that being left lost the election downballot is just silly given that the primary was very clear that the Sander's and Warren's of the party were rejected. Warnock is just a classic liberal democrat and Ossoff is far from a lefty.


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I honestly don't see how the takeaway from this election being "moderation is best" when Biden grossly underperformed winning this election to begin with. Imagine if there had been no Covid-19 whatsoever. Does anyone here truly believe Biden would've still won? Even his top aides have somewhat admitted this recently, and it's what's also driving his first steps addressing Covid by placing together the task force before his administrative picks. 

Alexandria Cortez is mainly thinking about the mid-terms, which should take a big precedence as it could secure a supermajority for the Dems (admittedly hopeful) and a mitigation of their losses in the House. If the Democrats do not take a strong message for their party and refuse stand for anything, then expect for a repeat of the same disappointment from a decade ago during the Tea Party era. Keep something very important in mind here: there is no longer a big bad conservative enemy in which the public is consistently focused upon. This means, the voter turnout for the 2022 midterms could be disappointing when compared to the 2018 midterms. I don't want to contribute the success of those elections entirely upon the adversarial nature of the former President, but it's easy to forget Americans have bad memories when the agency of the issue is no longer before them.

I don't think the narrative the progressives are seeking will affect Georgia too much; the vote there is being driven by and large by a much higher turnout of African American voters, not exclusively suburbanites, so that will depend entirely on the ground game Stacy Abrams and the like are running there. Biden/Harris upon winning the election, also have the momentum to inspire voters to flip the State Senate, as these voters should also be aware doing so will help Biden's agenda. I am cautious only because African American voters actually are more conservative leaning within the Dem party, which may seem to contradict what I said, but it's also likely that identity politics and issues centered around policies which have plagued Georgia for years; ie disenfranchisement and voter suppression would take precedence there right now much more than fears of progressives.

I'm also not sure if Georgia will remain Blue for long, either, but I do agree this comes down to voter turnout primarily. Don't repeat the mistake of Doug Jones in Alabama, who was the very definition of a milktoast centrist propelled by African American voters over Roy Moore. This is not the time in American history to "play it safe." 



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What I think about Biden:

 

Starspawn0's thoughts on Biden... https://imgur.com/a/b3mH1zB



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So in his speech, Biden says he doesn't see red and blue, and that he'll also be there for Trump supporters. No word for the marginalized groups being the target of their bullying, blatant racism, and endless fight to take away rights that allow them to live as equals.

 

One day after his victory, and I'm already feeling annoyed with Joe's centrism.

 

And the funny thing is, after these four insane years, I sure as heck miss feeling annoyed with centrism.



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So just want to make my prediction of this presidency but I feel that the left wing section of the party is going to undermine Biden during his presidency and we could very well see a Republican president back in 4 years... The first test will be these Georgia senate runoffs coming on January 5th to set the tone. These are critical when it comes to securing relief financing for the new focus that will be shown towards the COVID-19 pandemic, however if the left starts getting into fights over social policy such as "defund the police" before that time which is extremely unpopular in the States it could drive record Republican turnout in these races and assure a Republican senate which the left-wing of the Democratic party won't want to deal with, and potentially cripple the American economy. Biden has a very tight rope to win these races and it could set the tone for his presidency and as soon as COVID is brought under control there is a high chance his presidency could descend into chaos anyways as the left tries to assert itself...

 

Also I predict Trump is going to turn his attention to these races in one final blaze of campaign glory for him... securing the Senate for Republicans would be a final act of legacy building for him and also a chance to strike back vengeance on the Democrats... Democrats are going to have an uphill battle driving turnout here as with bogeyman of Trump gone they may see less motivation whereas Republicans may see more...

Specifically which Republican do you see as being the most likely to win the US Presidency four years from now?



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So just want to make my prediction of this presidency but I feel that the left wing section of the party is going to undermine Biden during his presidency and we could very well see a Republican president back in 4 years... The first test will be these Georgia senate runoffs coming on January 5th to set the tone. These are critical when it comes to securing relief financing for the new focus that will be shown towards the COVID-19 pandemic, however if the left starts getting into fights over social policy such as "defund the police" before that time which is extremely unpopular in the States it could drive record Republican turnout in these races and assure a Republican senate which the left-wing of the Democratic party won't want to deal with, and potentially cripple the American economy. Biden has a very tight rope to win these races and it could set the tone for his presidency and as soon as COVID is brought under control there is a high chance his presidency could descend into chaos anyways as the left tries to assert itself...

 

Also I predict Trump is going to turn his attention to these races in one final blaze of campaign glory for him... securing the Senate for Republicans would be a final act of legacy building for him and also a chance to strike back vengeance on the Democrats... Democrats are going to have an uphill battle driving turnout here as with bogeyman of Trump gone they may see less motivation whereas Republicans may see more...

Specifically which Republican do you see as being the most likely to win the US Presidency four years from now?

 

I don't try to make these predictions. 4 years is an eternity in politics...

 

Anyways backing up my point further regarding social messaging and support for the Democrats, especially like stuff regarding "defund the police": https://www.theguard...democrats-polls



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So just want to make my prediction of this presidency but I feel that the left wing section of the party is going to undermine Biden during his presidency and we could very well see a Republican president back in 4 years... The first test will be these Georgia senate runoffs coming on January 5th to set the tone. These are critical when it comes to securing relief financing for the new focus that will be shown towards the COVID-19 pandemic, however if the left starts getting into fights over social policy such as "defund the police" before that time which is extremely unpopular in the States it could drive record Republican turnout in these races and assure a Republican senate which the left-wing of the Democratic party won't want to deal with, and potentially cripple the American economy. Biden has a very tight rope to win these races and it could set the tone for his presidency and as soon as COVID is brought under control there is a high chance his presidency could descend into chaos anyways as the left tries to assert itself...

 

Also I predict Trump is going to turn his attention to these races in one final blaze of campaign glory for him... securing the Senate for Republicans would be a final act of legacy building for him and also a chance to strike back vengeance on the Democrats... Democrats are going to have an uphill battle driving turnout here as with bogeyman of Trump gone they may see less motivation whereas Republicans may see more...

Specifically which Republican do you see as being the most likely to win the US Presidency four years from now?

 

 

Biden will be a one term president because he won't accomplish anything of note due to the deadlocked senate, his own centrism with wanting to reach out to republicans and the new makeup of the supreme court blocking even minor progress. America needs a radical president who would get Puerto Rico and DC into the Union and pack the court. If only McConnell was a Democrat...


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So just want to make my prediction of this presidency but I feel that the left wing section of the party is going to undermine Biden during his presidency and we could very well see a Republican president back in 4 years... The first test will be these Georgia senate runoffs coming on January 5th to set the tone. These are critical when it comes to securing relief financing for the new focus that will be shown towards the COVID-19 pandemic, however if the left starts getting into fights over social policy such as "defund the police" before that time which is extremely unpopular in the States it could drive record Republican turnout in these races and assure a Republican senate which the left-wing of the Democratic party won't want to deal with, and potentially cripple the American economy. Biden has a very tight rope to win these races and it could set the tone for his presidency and as soon as COVID is brought under control there is a high chance his presidency could descend into chaos anyways as the left tries to assert itself...

 

Also I predict Trump is going to turn his attention to these races in one final blaze of campaign glory for him... securing the Senate for Republicans would be a final act of legacy building for him and also a chance to strike back vengeance on the Democrats... Democrats are going to have an uphill battle driving turnout here as with bogeyman of Trump gone they may see less motivation whereas Republicans may see more...

Specifically which Republican do you see as being the most likely to win the US Presidency four years from now?

 

 

Biden will be a one term president because he won't accomplish anything of note due to the deadlocked senate, his own centrism with wanting to reach out to republicans and the new makeup of the supreme court blocking even minor progress. America needs a radical president who would get Puerto Rico and DC into the Union and pack the court. If only McConnell was a Democrat...

 

Well to actually get anything done they need to get these 2 senate seats in Georgia. His centrism may help here along with the organizational efforts of Stacey Abrams as long as the left wing of the party doesn't have opposite effect of motivating people back towards the Republicans instead. Once this mission is accomplished then they can talk about going a more progressive route. Until then these left-wingers should STFU, or else they will end up getting NONE of what they want.



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So just want to make my prediction of this presidency but I feel that the left wing section of the party is going to undermine Biden during his presidency and we could very well see a Republican president back in 4 years... The first test will be these Georgia senate runoffs coming on January 5th to set the tone. These are critical when it comes to securing relief financing for the new focus that will be shown towards the COVID-19 pandemic, however if the left starts getting into fights over social policy such as "defund the police" before that time which is extremely unpopular in the States it could drive record Republican turnout in these races and assure a Republican senate which the left-wing of the Democratic party won't want to deal with, and potentially cripple the American economy. Biden has a very tight rope to win these races and it could set the tone for his presidency and as soon as COVID is brought under control there is a high chance his presidency could descend into chaos anyways as the left tries to assert itself...

 

Also I predict Trump is going to turn his attention to these races in one final blaze of campaign glory for him... securing the Senate for Republicans would be a final act of legacy building for him and also a chance to strike back vengeance on the Democrats... Democrats are going to have an uphill battle driving turnout here as with bogeyman of Trump gone they may see less motivation whereas Republicans may see more...

Specifically which Republican do you see as being the most likely to win the US Presidency four years from now?

 

 

Biden will be a one term president because he won't accomplish anything of note due to the deadlocked senate, his own centrism with wanting to reach out to republicans and the new makeup of the supreme court blocking even minor progress. America needs a radical president who would get Puerto Rico and DC into the Union and pack the court. If only McConnell was a Democrat...

 

Well to actually get anything done they need to get these 2 senate seats in Georgia. His centrism may help here along with the organizational efforts of Stacey Abrams as long as the left wing of the party doesn't have opposite effect of motivating people back towards the Republicans instead. Once this mission is accomplished then they can talk about going a more progressive route. Until then these left-wingers should STFU, or else they will end up getting NONE of what they want.

 

 

I mean even if they got those two senate seats (big if) with someone like Manchin on your team how much ability to really pass legislation do you have with such as narrow senate majority.


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Well the biggest issue they need the Senate for will be to get funding for the effort to contain COVID and get resources to administer a vaccine... I do not trust a Republican senate not to attempt to obstruct this should they still have control...



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Leftists are not going out to undermine these runoffs... The only real question around the runoff will be "Do you want a second relief package or not?", not about defunding police or whatever machinations we're creating. It's largely a referendum of handling the pandemic (and essentially the economy) and what Georgians will want the federal government to do. Usual GOP messaging and lower turnout are what would undermine them, which unfortunately is nothing new outside of presidential elections (2018 excepted).


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I don't see how the turnout will be high enough to grant the democrats a duopoly in Congress. And i'm going to be voting in the runoff. 


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