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First generation of androids circa. 2025-2030?


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Hey guys im new to the forum and this is my first post. Do you guys think that around 2025-2030 the first gen android robots will be commercially available.
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Yes, by then, for sure. What do you mean by "android" though?


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Yes, by then, for sure. What do you mean by "android" though?

humanoid robots.
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We already got humanoid looking robots, so it seems pretty reasonable. Right now there are some limits to them, but in 15 more years I think we will resolve most of those issues.



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARwIn-OP

 

if you've got 12,000 dollars to spare you can have one from robotis.

 

for a bit more you can get Nao

 

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Nao_(robot)

 

it'll be some time before they are more useful and capable of better interaction. depends on what functions you have in mind.


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Yeah, like jaggard says, they already exist. Here's one you can purchase for a much more affordable price, around $1,000: http://www.kurzweila...-for-under-1000



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I think it's important to distinguish the differences between Androids/gynoids, robots, animatronics and automatons.

 

Automatons are anything that mechanically moves without somebody instructing it's motions. Wind up toys and more complex performance pieces for example, but usually they are the equivalent of a record player performing a linear series of actions. Then do not sense, and thus are not sentient. They do not think, thus they are not cognizant.

 

Animatronics are essentially electro mechanical puppets. In many cases they are also automatons. Set a program with a start and finish and no senses or thought. Occasionally as seems to be the case with the geminoids, they are puppets controlled remotely.

 

Robots usually have at least on sense, and use it to get information with which it thinks about what to do based on the programs it's given. Object observed in location B, program states move all objects in location B to location A. Move Object from B to A.  This requires senses, thus they can be sentient. And it requires the ability to respond to that sensory input that boarders on cognizance. The use of robot to refer to an elctro mechanical device controlled via remote control is not unheard of but this in my mind is a confused use. There are already terms for that. (remote manipulatortelefactor, telemanipulator, or waldo)

 

Androids and Gynoids are essentially electromechanical artificial Men and Women. The qualification is more about appearances and movement than anything concerning cognizance. They wouldn't need to think, simply to respond to inputs with the proper responses programed.

 

But it's customary when speaking of androids to think of autonomous, robotic humanoids. at what point does it become humanoid enough to qualify is variable. I would say the Darwins qualify. But others want Data from star trek TNG before they are willing to call it an android. How about Wal-e or Jonny 5? Androids or robots?


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