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I suggest you listen to other opinions first. 2 negative reviews on a somewhat obscure futurist website aren't enough.

EDIT: Though, after looking at it, I can't say you're going to find too many glowingly positive reviews at this point. Most pro and user reviewers give it about the same score as I did.


Edited by The Young Homo Maximus, 17 August 2013 - 06:43 PM.

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The story was pretty dull but the CGI was fantastic. 



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I'd say it is a good movie. Comparing it to District 9 is as obvious as it is unfitting. D9 was very fresh had this great narrative going from found footage, to regular movie and in finale back to found footage. Here we have a classical narrative and generally more classical movie. Copley is a great actor, here he gets to play an unpredictable psycho :) rest of cast is just OK, they don't get too many moments to shine. I love Jodie Foster but she didn't do much, I enjoyed Fitchner's asshole-coward billionaire. In general I liked how action progressed. Pace was great and at same time each sequence had it's reasons. It wasn't just like "let's throw in a video-game part" with some cubes and robots like in new Total Recall. All you see has reasons. Unfortunately action sequences suffer greatly from shaky cam. It's horrible, nad sometimes you just can't see a thing. And that's coming from back row of cinema. Special effects are perfect. Top notch practical and CGI, fantastic sets, fitting D9 style and functionality you can grab in Cameron's movies. As for populism... Well there's a heavy dose of cheese but it's concentrated in prologue and finale only, and a terrible load of funny naivety in last scenes, but 90% of the movie is free of that. It is totally worth visit in cinema. It's a solid, R-rated, ballsy SF movie. And if you throw in those few bucks we might see more: - SF movies - non-sequels, non-remakes, non-adaptations - R-rated sci-fi


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I guess what I'm trying to say is "If you're a fan of high-tech action stories with some social commentary, you'll like this movie." It's like that game where reviewers say "Fans will love it; casuals should rent." The only aspect of it I really enjoyed (beyond what TransAustin mentioned; the CGI is scenery porn) was that it did- at least- dare to be sociotechnopolitical. It just flopped to me, badly. I can't see a wave of movies coming out particularly like this one because it really didn't take too many risks that other movies are afraid to do. 

Its populism/libertarianism/anarchism (I feel that it was incapable of choosing between which one it wanted to be) is a very good start but it's not enough to get the intellectual ball rolling. Not that I'd expect any different from Hollywood.


Edited by The Young Homo Maximus, 17 August 2013 - 06:47 PM.

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Another case where the trailer is far more exciting than the movie itself. The movie was almost completely devoid of interesting characters, the only character that really caught our attention was the one tasked with hunting down Matt Damon, and even then it was more so that he was just really entertaining. Jodie Foster's character was very stock, very over-acted, and had little to no backstory. Matt Damon's backstory was uninspiring and dry. The supporting characters throughout the story all felt very stock. To be honest just about everything story related felt very stock and cliché, including the class warfare themes and vague transhumanist themes. What saved the movie for me was that it was an amazing piece of visual art, as expected from Neill Blomkamp and whoever does his concept art, the same crew behind good ol' District 9. Initially there wasn't much to behold but once Matt Damon got his hands on the fancy suit and the story's attention shifted from Matt Damon's life on Earth to Matt Damon's journey to the sky it basically became an oozing tech porno worth the time for any fan of cyberpunk art styles. The weaponry was sort of the focal point for any "holy shit, what just happened" moments and there were plenty of them, just enough to keep the movie entertaining. Anything used for killing people or not being killed looked absolutely amazing. Elysium as a setting looked absolutely amazing (and almost identical to the Citadel from the Mass Effect series). The haircuts sported by Elysium staff looked amazing. If you want to see beautiful special effects, set design, and character design, go see Elysium. If you want a compelling story with interesting characters, good acting, as well as all of the above, go watch District 9 again.


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Just saw the movie today with my girl. She wanted to see wolverine but i was like fuck that.

 

Totally badass movie I enjoyed it. I'd recommend going to see it.

 

Though I agree some of the sci fi tech stuff was a little lacking, although it's understandable that they had to make a point in that the rich have all the nice stuff and the poor people have dirty and severely outdated technology.

One thing that confused me is why there are people working in a factory when there's robots that are smart enough to assess, respond to, and handle a crime scene autonomously. 

 

Plot was simple but okay. Very straightforward and actually made sense. Also I thought it'd be extremely outlandish that a small group of people could challenge elysium, but they made it work as the story unfolded.

 

Definitely a good watch, I can't wait for the next big sci fi action movie. It's my favorite genre 


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Yeah its science fiction not some discovery channel show about our best guess of the future.

 

I saw it a few days ago and I liked it, I give it a 8/10.  Worth it.  If you don't see it you aren't missing out, but its worth the stupid price of a ticket.


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I never used to like these sci-fi dystopian movies. But since most are giving it a high rating, I am going to give it a go.


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For me it was a mediocre movie. The story it predictable and throughout the film never anything unexpected happens. It was nice to see that Stanford torus and some of the tech but it's not a movie you watch for the story or characters. There where many logical flaws that just don't make sense. I think District 9 was a far better movie. I would give it only 6/10.



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its an okay movie. not entirely awesome but not lame either.


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its an okay movie. not entirely awesome but not lame either.

 

Yeah I agree as well, the only think I liked in the movie was the Medical technology and the Elysium space station.


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Wasn't Elysium supposed to be Halo? Good enough reference, but... 

The movie definitely reeked of " Typical Summer Action Movie." The political bent of it is now more like the general difference between other action movies who have some sort of "deeper" plot lines that they don't expand on and barely even acknowledge and only exist to push the action/violence along. 

Also, did anyone notice Foster's character's accent changing over the course of the movie?

 

 

Yeah its science fiction not some discovery channel show about our best guess of the future.

I'm not saying that it should be ultra-realistic and based in reality (then what's the purpose of sci-fi?! The craziness gives us a reason to look forward to and develop the future); just that it felt flat. I had high expectations and it didn't come close to meeting them. I'm also not saying it's The Expendables with shades of class warfare and transhumanism, but it's not the epic drama/adventure flick I hoped it would be. It had the action, but just... didn't really do it so well to me.


Edited by The Young Homo Maximus, 11 September 2013 - 10:03 PM.

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Just saw Elysium, I thought it was pretty cool.

 

It didn't really go in depth about the ramifications of transhumanism. I was a little disappointed to see that the elite weren't utilizing transhumanism to whatever effect it would in the 22nd century.

 

But whatever, it was more about the class divide and metaphor for immigration. I respect that.


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The weapons and the exosuits were awesome.



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I just watched it a few days ago too... 

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To keep them in their place, I guess. It was obvious from the beginning that some of the elite saw the common folk as subhuman, "don't breathe on me."

 

The president's administration concerned itself with human rights violations and saw the common folk as human beings, but there was definitely a rival faction of elite who put the security of Elysium over the preservation of human life.

 

One thing I didn't get about the movie was how overpopulated Earth was. Earth was obviously a polluted shithole, with most of its resources gone. And yet, everywhere was crowded with dirty throngs of subsistence-living poor people. If Earth was overpopulated before, the population would have taken a huge dip once there were no more resources to sustain anyone. People on Earth would have had to resort to feudal societies, with population reaching no more than 50 per town.


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That's if technology didn't exist... but if they have machines that can heal any ailment in 10 seconds, they likely have machines that can produce food as well.



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That's if technology didn't exist... but if they have machines that can heal any ailment in 10 seconds, they likely have machines that can produce food as well.

 

Funny if they will have machines that will produce anything to our heart's desire... and they have greater problems that transcend beyond the ones we have today. You know the saying "1st world problems"? Countries in the developing world have no concept of these kinds of problems. The same could be said of us versus our descendents in the future.  Well, they will have "transcendence problems" of likes we can't even imagine. lol


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Ending makes it all idiotic. They'd rather be able to keep everyone in place if they used those ready-to-go medical ships.


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As time goes on, I've come to realize...

I still don't like Elysium.


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