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Will there be anti technology movements?


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Oh yea, with AI coming out, immortality and the possibility to CLONE HUMAN BEINGS? you bet your ass there will be!

Doesn't cloning already exist? Or are you talking about direct, instant copying?


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Oh yea, with AI coming out, immortality and the possibility to CLONE HUMAN BEINGS? you bet your ass there will be!

Doesn't cloning already exist? Or are you talking about direct, instant copying?

He is talking about when or if cloning become wide spread and unhindered. This does pose serious ethical and societal problems.

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Modern technology is probably more balanced that the brute force inefficient older technologies. World wide adoption of more modern technology allows you to be closer to nature and is safer for the environment. You don't need to be crawling around in the dirt to be in tune with nature. 

 

As for cloning, I bet we could clone a human being right now if we wanted, and it would be perfectly healthy. In a way you could say that the anti technology people are already stopping that from happening.



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As for cloning, I bet we could clone a human being right now if we wanted, and it would be perfectly healthy. In a way you could say that the anti technology people are already stopping that from happening.

That's true. I don't consider myself anti-tech by any means, but I'd be curious as to how exactly clone people (Entire people) would benefit us?

I'd also be scared of being replaced by me version 2.0.



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i dont believe cloning humans is possible yet (i dont mean full mind transfer, i just mean making a genetic twin in an embryo type cloning). But it will be soon

 

Rkw cloning humans would be extremely beneficial for genetic engineering. Practicing genetic engineering on baby humans to make a super being. Or deciding whether or not a certain type of genetic engineering method is dangerous or harmful. Also studying the brain can't fully be done in experiment because nobody would want to kill themselves for science, but with clones scientists could have an array of humans to practice on with trial and error. Right now we practice these things on mice and monkeys, but we'd be able to test it on humans directly. ofcourse this is EXTREMELY unethical because we'd be keeping cloned humans in test tubes and cages while we tested on them, but there would be ALOT of scientific advantages.

 

I don't think cloning is right and it should never be done at all. But there's no way to stop it and it's most likely destined to happen with extreme privacy by developed nations.


Edited by Squillimy, 16 April 2013 - 07:02 PM.

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Couldn't these kinds of experiments be done without a complete human being, being created?

 

I'm not sure why it's less disturbing to picture just a brain being tested as opposed to a full person.

I guess the brain has no chance at a normal life while the complete human could have.

 

I especially dislike the idea of my DNA being used.



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Well a brain is a person, so technically even though the brain doesnt have sensory input (i.e. a brain with no ears or eyes or nose mouth and nerves), it would still be a person trapped in there. but yea it's probably possible, but definately not right now, we've only made the simplest organs, and those aren't even direct clones... it'd probably just be easier to cloen the whole being.

 

I'm sure it wouldn't be your DNA, but someones DNA who donated their body to science, which many people do. All you'd need is one and you could use his/her cells.


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There is already an anti internet movement ( its full of old people).In the future there will be major movements against gene manipulation, possibly even wars.There will also be major movements against VR I predict.
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If we can clone other animals(and we can), then we can clone humans. It couldn't really replace you though because the clone would be just a baby and you would  be an adult.



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Yes, cloning humans is technically possible right now, but society isn't ready for it.

 

With every technological breakthrough, there will always be luddites and naysayers.  I'd guess the percentage of these will increase when shit starts to get really crazy (i.e. mind uploading, reverse aging, designer babies), but honestly, any movement, no matter how popular, hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of stopping the development of new technology.

 

We have this illusion that we're in control of what's happening, but it isn't so.  I might enjoy "free will" as an individual, but applied to the whole species, such a concept does not (yet) exist.


Edited by StanleyAlexander, 16 April 2013 - 09:06 PM.

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I think that cloning would be an excellent way of bringing back extinct species, and should be widely used in the near future for this reason, but I doubt cloning humans will be considered acceptable for a few centuries yet.

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It seems people are too addicted to their gadgets and tablets, is technology taking over and do we need an anti technology movement! I think people should get in the offline real world more! Get back to nature and balance!

 

You think there already isn't???
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It seems people are too addicted to their gadgets and tablets, is technology taking over and do we need an anti technology movement! I think people should get in the offline real world more! Get back to nature and balance!

 You think there already isn't???Ever heard of the Unabomber?  Want to know what he stood for? http://cyber.eserver....org/unabom.txt[/url]

The Unabomber was an MK-Ultra patsy.

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Like some people here said there will be increasing amounts of anti tech movements but the pace in technological progression is just far too great nowadays too even hinder it. The only thing that will happen is get left behind. Also try putting side by side how technology progressed from year 2000 too now and federal government actions and you should get a bigger picture. :D



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Like some people here said there will be increasing amounts of anti tech movements but the pace in technological progression is just far too great nowadays too even hinder it. The only thing that will happen is get left behind. Also try putting side by side how technology progressed from year 2000 too now and federal government actions and you should get a bigger picture. :D

Technology will not be evenly distributed. And as for people who become left behind in certain societies, many will choose to be left behind anyway.

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Just imagine a massive protest against the iPad 5, just because it's technology. It's not going to happen any time soon.

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Just imagine a massive protest against the iPad 5, just because it's technology. It's not going to happen any time soon.

They will not protest the iPad 5, but will protest VR.




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