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[FutureOfToday]

How optimistic are you that you'd be resurrected after dying thanks to cryogenic freezing? Personally, I'm 50/50 about it.

[Rkw]

Not super optimistic but I don't think it's impossible, you've got a few problems to face.

 

• Can you ever be brought back from the frozen state you are in? (Perhaps something in your initial freezing means that you are beyond recovery using future means)
• Will your stasis unit be safe until such technologies are available? (Earthquakes, human negligence, power outages etc.)
• Will the company you have paid still be around when such technologies are available (Will they run out of cash, will such practices be deemed immoral or illegal in the future? Will future generations of the company get greedy and attempt to weasel out of their contract somehow?)

If I was completely confident that I'd be brought back and at the appropriate time I'd be saving my money away right now and taking out a plan with a cryostasis company immediately, but as it is I'm not convinced. Luckily I should have a good few decades to mull it over, save money and for technology to progress. I'd sign up for it in later life if no huge medical advances were made by then.

[Ewan]

I think they'll develop a way to put people into stasis & bring them back, but I think those that have died & been frozen will stay dead. 

[Raklian]

My gut says that someone will come along with a very ingenious method of putting people into a stasis that does not require any "freezing."

 

We need a Elon Musk for the cryogenics industry.

[WithoutCoincidence]

Almost certain it'll work. I'm also desperate that it will work, just in case the Cure for Aging doesn't come out fast enough.

[FutureOfToday]

I sincerely hope it will work. It would definitely make death a less frightening concept.

[Pwaa]

Not very.

I'm no scientist so i would feel foolish to rule it out, and we've seen examples of biological tissues surviving through being frozen for extremely long times, but there's a big difference between keeping tissue fresh and keeping something alive...

[FutureOfToday]

But if it's kept "fresh" - what's to stop us from eventually resurrecting it?

[Kabe Ayofe]

I'm not overly optimistic about people currently frozen.. I think within the next 40 years a far superior method of preservation will exist.

[Ewan]

But if it's kept "fresh" - what's to stop us from eventually resurrecting it?

 

Well then it wouldn't really be dead would it? If you're there to preserve the body then why let it die in the first place? Why not just preserve it before death then resurrect later?

 

Death by definition is the state by which someone cannot be recovered. That was previously defined as the following: "Death was once defined as the cessation of heartbeat and of breathing", then we invented CPR & definition no longer made sense. Now we define death as: "when the electrical activity in the brain ceases". Of course the neurons in the brain don't disappear straight away, and if the brain were to be "restarted" you'd come back from the dead. But then this would no longer be classified as dying anymore. You wouldn't be dead until your body had decayed beyond recovery. 

Edited by Ewan, 11 May 2013 - 02:24 PM.

[Futurist]

I think that it is about a 50%-50% proposition either way.

Edited by Futurist, 22 May 2013 - 09:46 PM.

[Futurist]

I'm not overly optimistic about people currently frozen.. I think within the next 40 years a far superior method of preservation will exist.

 

Let's also hope that it is going to be much cheaper than Alcor's cryogenic preservation costs.

[Kabe Ayofe]

I'm not overly optimistic about people currently frozen.. I think within the next 40 years a far superior method of preservation will exist.

 

Let's also hope that it is going to be much cheaper than Alcor's cryogenic preservation costs.

ALCOR definitely need to adjust their cost, the Cryonics institute (http://www.cryonics.org) is an even bigger organisation than ALCOR and is less than half the price ($30k). I'm confident we'll have cryo-stasis by 2050 anyway.

Edited by Kabe Ayofe, 23 May 2013 - 12:27 AM.

[Thaizasaskand]

I would like to think that it would work, as there would be a chance (well, after ressurection) of living into the future, but I am not particularly optimistic about its success (what I'd really love is life extension early enough, and with advancements being released rapidly enough that I can reach the aging escape velocity, but it's impossible to say at this point whether this is going to happen). It's currently a concept and nothing more, so I'm not going to count the chickens until the eggs have hatched (or if affordable life extension appears before decent cryonics).

[Alric]

I put I am entirely certain it will work, but that is based on the technology and not outside interference. It is possible a giant mob could come in and just blow up the building you happened to be stored in because they hate the idea of people coming back. Though I don't consider that a fault of the technology. Also things like the super volcano in yellowstone could erupt and kill everyone in the US, that also isn't the fault of the technology.

 

I am pretty sure that you can be revived and it is pretty much just a matter of time and remaining in a stable state until then. I am not 100% confident that the companies can keep you in that state for the full time, but I am fairly confident that they can turn a profit and stay in business, and as long as they are in business they are not going to be dumping anyone. So I pretty confident you are safe.

[King of Ace]

HERE this one  

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=L6S5amkCoyc

 

 

you will have almost no control on whats coming years its a 50/50 chance