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will the future look like star trek?

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http://io9.com/59065...n-of-the-future

 

Interesting article.


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No it wont look like it...maybe diplomacy may work like in the TV series if we meet alien species



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We'll probably become more advanced before the Star Trek timeline. The Star Trek creators didn't account for the accelerating technological change.

 

Except for the two things that are difficult for me to imagine how we're going to surpass these guys - 1. warp drive AND 2. teleportation. Heck, I could be very wrong and some genius out there will come up with an alternative that is way more awesome than warp drive and teleportation.


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Like the majority of sci-fi, star trek is too advance in some areas and too primitive in others. Increasingly, I feel we will surpass most technology in scifi. 



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Like the majority of sci-fi, star trek is too advance in some areas and too primitive in others. Increasingly, I feel we will surpass most technology in scifi. 

We will surpass anything conceivable now and then surpass that again. This will go on forever.

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The future is a long vague time frame to judge by. Will we see star trek tech in the future?

 

The PADD = Tablet computer.

 

Combadge = rfid tags + bluetooth phone earpiece networked to a core computer on a ship.

 

replicator = 3d printers and food printers

 

tricorder = the next generation of cellphones or http://www.tricorder...out.html#models

 

phasers = this is still in the not sure if it's practical phase, but tasers and stun guns do exist for non leathal weapons.

 

Hypo spray= it's been created.

 

Universal translator = they have voice recognition software that can translate to other languages in the database of the computer. It's not perfect but it's still early.

 

VISOR (vision for the blind) = the bionic eyes they are coming out with now can allow some blind people to read, imagine 50 years from now.

 

and people are working on more besides these.

 

I also don't buy the ideas put forth by the article. Do you honestly think there won't be some serious conflict over genetic modification of humans. The after math of which may well see the idea as very taboo indeed, if it's not outright a risk to life. I can see some people having no issue in releasing a retro virus designed to give something like progeria and aids combined to anybody with biomarkers of having been genetically augmented from baseline human. Yeah try augmenting past that.

 

Cybernetics. I'd bet you could get some, but the majority of the population would be reluctant to hack off working parts for non organics. Not to mention the non self repairing nature of prosthetics, and the ability to hack computers based implant like has been demonstrated with networked insulin pumps that exist today.

 

Space travel is never going to be stopped, and recent Nasa study of legitimate warp science suggest it may not be as impracticle as the article says.

 

and Just because some AI could go screaming off into hyber evolution and ascend into higher realities or even just leave this one trick pony of a planet for the great outer space, doesn't mean every AI will choose to do the same thing. Think along the lines of AI versions of the Amish. Choosing the simple life developing character and making a journey for themselves that match those paths of the creators.

 

I don't think the timeline of trek or nessecarily all the things in it will be true some day. Just that as a means of telling a story about things to come it did a good job of predicting the potentials and inspiring some advances too.


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Since Star Trek has attached itself to a technological vision of the future that has been surpassed in many ways, and some of its technologies seem even further off or impossible, it's rapidly declining into retro-futurism. It would be nice to see a new sci fi franchise pick up the torch as the flagship for believable, optimistic science fiction. 

 

Ideally, it would include ideas that are typically neglected by mainstream sci fi:

 

- virtual reality

- augmented reality

- digital telepathy

- brain computer interfaces

- genetic augmentation

- life extension

- cybernetic augmentation

- nanotechnology

 

It would also be nice if it did not rely on further off, more dubious technologies and concepts such as:

 

- teleportation

- time travel

- FTL travel

- aliens

 

To sum it all up, some non-dystopian hard sci fi would be nice. A franchise with staying power that will seize the imaginations of a generation and make people hopeful about the future. Something that not only provides warnings about what humanity should avoid becoming, but also provides a model for what we SHOULD become.


Edited by zen_mutiny, 27 May 2013 - 08:47 PM.


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The problem with stuff like augmentation, in a popular sci fi show, is that many viewers don't like cyborgs (or transhumanists)

 

Really these shows only show the kind of future that the layman expects and wants to occur. This is why when you ask them what the world will look like in 200 years, they will often tell you a future that looks pretty damn close to what we are seeing in these popular shows/movies


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Why would people have a problem with augmentation when they gobble up stuff like Avengers and Superman? I think a future in which everyone is a physically attractive, superhuman, supergenius may actually appeal to a lot of average, everyday people.


Edited by zen_mutiny, 27 May 2013 - 09:25 PM.


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Why would people have a problem with augmentation when they gobble up stuff like Avengers and Superman? I think a future in which everyone is a physically attractive, superhuman, supergenius may actually appeal to a lot of average, everyday people.

 

If everyone is physically attractive, wouldn't that mean everyone is average to one other?

 

So, to be attractive, you'll need to be more attractive than it is humanly possible.  :D


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Why would people have a problem with augmentation when they gobble up stuff like Avengers and Superman? I think a future in which everyone is a physically attractive, superhuman, supergenius may actually appeal to a lot of average, everyday people.

Because You are not going to go from you now to Ultimate man in a few decades. If you are lucky the first twenty years of cybernetic augmentation is going to look like this:

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and then only marginally better by steps each decade after that. Lab grown organs will leave you with surgical scars like frankenstiens monster. Gene therapies may be harder to spot but the anxiety of tinkering with what makes a person them will hold that off, and in some cases altering one feature will change other features as collateral damage.

 

people who imagine a magical sort of augmentation often think we will just skip right over to the perfectly designed body, it's similar to the way some people imagine what human evolution is headed toward. They both fail to take into consideration that there isn't a single perfect form. To get batter at something you have to trade off something else. Sometimes it's something you probably won't need in your life. Sometimes you have to compromise something in favor of something you want more. Not everybody has the same priorities and is willing to make the same compromises.

 

a swiss army knife does a lot of things,  but it does then at best in a clumsy way. Think of the cork screw, yup you can pop a cork with it but not as well as you can with the type with the leverage assisting arms, but that cork screw can't also cut paper like a pair of scissors. Humans are multi tools of evolution, but if you want to make us better in one thing you may have to remove one or more other features. Beauty is one use, if you optimise for that you are making more than a few compromises to practcality.


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yes, but we're talking about the 2200's. By then I would expect augmentation technology to be pretty advanced. Of course it would also make it very difficult to make an

engaging plot if all the humans were superhuman.

 

Why would people have a problem with augmentation when they gobble up stuff like Avengers and Superman? I think a future in which everyone is a physically attractive, superhuman, supergenius may actually appeal to a lot of average, everyday people.

 

Because to a lot of people they wouldn't be human anymore. Social attitudes change over time, but if you just went ahead and showed a completely upgraded person, people would find it hard to empathize with him/her.


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If we go back to using 1960s technology, then yes. Otherwise, no.





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