I agree that the future of humanity doesn't lie in viviparous breeding, but rather artificial wombs and whatnot. The only argument that speaks in favour of this is equality: There are some men that want to share this special mother-child-bond that happens during pregnancy without being a woman. The question is if this group is large enough to represent a viable demand, so that such a development wouldn't be completely pointless. I am still undecided, personally, but I tend to see it as rather unnecessary.
Well, (no offense) you're not a man, so you are unable to fully understand the desire that some men (such as myself, and Yes, I would be willing to get a permanent sex change for this) have for this. Try thinking about it more from the perspective of a man (or former man) who wants to do this, rather than from a perspective of a woman with an X-X chromosome combination (I apologize if I appear offensive or insensitive, but that is not my intention here--I am simply trying to make a point).
I am not transgender in a strict sense of the word, but there are some transgender women (who were formerly biological men) who would probably want to do this, and we know that society nowadays is very tolerant and accepting and accommodating disadvantaged people and whatnot.
Yeah, I get that it's somewhat difficult for me to imagine how it might feel for a man. I have the privilege of having the natural aptitude to bear children if I wish so, so I should probably reconsider. I am not offended by your argument, and I hope you are not offended by my statement. I already stated that the unique mother-child bond that is formed during pregnancy and in my opinion goes much further is something some men might want to pursue and, in some time in the future, could become reality for them. I don't know much about this, though. It's honestly not something I've looked into too much, seeing that I am indeed female and grew up knowing that the possibility is there - even though I currently have no plans to make use of it. Actually, that's quite ironic and must be really hard for men wanting this. To know that there are people who are wasting (?) the chance they got by nature.
I'm sorry if it sounds naive and stupid - it's just quite hard to relate for me.
Don't worry, I am not offended by your statement. I simply think that it is a good idea to analyze, examine, and understand all of the sides of a specific argument/position so that one is fully able to understand it. (As a side note, one can still have an opinion/position on something even if this thing/issue does not personally affect him/her, since to say otherwise would be an ad hominem fallacy.) I'm glad that you were not offended by my argument. Yeah, some men and women are uninterested in fully "exploring" the body and whatnot of the other gender, but some people such as myself (and transgender people, et cetera) are very interested in the fully "exploring" the body of the other biological gender. I don't know about other men who want to be pregnant, but knowing that you and some other women never get and never want to get pregnant isn't something that I'm upset about or something which is hard for me to handle. Everyone should have the right to do whatever he or she wants with his or her body as long as they do not violate anyone else's rights (or the rights that someone else should have*). If you never want to get pregnant, that's perfectly fine with me. After all, it's your body, not mine. I am disappointed that I do not have the ability to be pregnant, though. I am probably willing to endure a lot to get this ability, even a sex change (which, despite the fact that I am not transgender in a strict sense, is actually a very appealing idea to me in the future once trans-women are able to become pregnant and once sex changes and everything that comes with them becomes less risky, troublesome, and burdensome). In addition, I am annoyed by my gender due to the current stupid abortion and child support laws. I don't see why a (straight) man such as myself should automatically risk being forced to pay child support when having sex with a woman, even if the woman promises this man before sex that she will get an abortion and then changes her mind later on and gives birth. Women have an opt-out after s*x (abortion), while men don't even have an opt-out before s*x which allows them to actually have s*x later on. Hopefully male contraception such as RISUG (which, even though they say it is 100% efficient, I fear is more like 99.99% or 99.95% efficient, but still way better than the status quo) will make things fairer for men such as myself in the near future in regards to this. Also, another thing which I strongly like about the female body are the magic female nipples. Even though my own (male) nipples are seductive, they are not nearly as magical as the nipples of a woman such as yourself (if you catch my drift).
As a side note, and I truly apologize if this is offensive, but I think that in gay-friendly countries, gay/lesbian (I know that you dislike this term, but it is the English dictionary term for a woman who likes another woman) and bisexual women "have it better" than straight women, since in my honest opinion women are so much hotter than men, and such women can also please themselves (if you catch my drift) by hearing hot clothes and outfits themselves rather than by having someone else war these hot clothes and outfits.
And don't worry--you don't sound naive and/or stupid at all.
As for this part (the *), an example to what I was referring to is abortion. If one thinks that embryos and fetuses should have legal personhood, then in his/her view it could be morally unjustifiable to for a woman to deny an embryo/fetus the use of her body (at least in most cases) even if this woman genuinely wants to deny this embryo/fetus the use of her body.
Edited by Futurist, 03 July 2013 - 01:12 AM.