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I don't see the extreme far future being discussed much here. What do you think of the timeline's predictions? Where will humanity be at this point?

 

Planet-sized computers are dominating the Local Group of galaxies; AI controls all government and other systems; the descendants of humanity are a Type 3 civilisation on the Kardashev scale Purely biological (non-cyborg) humans are exceedingly rare now. The very few which do remain comprise only a tiny fraction of the total sentient minds in existence. Though free to come and go as they please, they have practically zero influence in any governmental systems on Earth or elsewhere, being regarded as wholly subordinate to the AIs and other entities. As a species, homo sapiens has continued to evolve over time. This has led to a further increase in cranial size, a near-total absence of hair, an elongation of limbs, a more robust and capable immune system, and a greatly increased lifespan.

The vast majority of humans have long since abandoned these primitive biological forms, making the transition to machines or other substrates and achieving practical immortality. The entire Milky Way galaxy has been explored by these transhumans and their sentient ships.

Faster-than-light travel is now possible using Alcubierre drives, which are compact and miniaturised enough to be found in even personal, single-occupancy vessels. These use such colossal amounts of power that they cause the fabric of space ahead of a ship to contract, while the space behind it expands. This bypasses the laws of relativity, allowing travel to even neighbouring galaxies such as M31 (Andromeda) and M33 (Triangulum).

Planet-sized computers are being constructed throughout the Local Group of galaxies, with every available resource going towards their production. All of the "dead" worlds, comets, moons and asteroids considered uninhabitable are being converted into these machines, forming a vast network millions of light years across space. Each computer is capable of instant communications with any other, regardless of distance.

A number of alien intelligences have been contacted by now. In addition, ancient ruins have been uncovered on many worlds - indicating advanced civilisations which somehow failed or destroyed themselves in the distant past. Thousands of other planets have been discovered to have rich ecosystems, brimming with diverse plant and animal (and other) life. Most of the fauna being catalogued is small and insect-like, but some is more developed with intelligence comparable to higher mammals such as dolphins, monkeys and cats.

 

Most of the biological (non-cyborg) humans are avoiding the core regions in each galaxy, which are filled with extremely high concentrations of gamma radiation, blackholes and other hazards - dangerous even with the technologies and protections of today.


Edited by Michelangelo, 12 August 2013 - 11:14 PM.


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It's hard to discuss because one million is such a ridiculously long time. It's all the time humanity has had agriculture... times one hundred. It's simply not something you can reliably predict; that far into the future, anything goes.


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After a few decades, these predictions become basically science fiction. Too many variables for us to say for sure. 



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1 million AD is practically impossible to predict. What the timeline says.... take it with a grain of salt.


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There is a thread called "Playing God" where we were discussing the future billions of years into the future, so it is something that we have discussed. It does fascinate me, but it's extremely difficult to speculate what life will be like even in 3000 AD.

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 it's extremely difficult to speculate what life will be like even in 3000 AD.

 

Even 2200 AD is extremely difficult to speculate. All of the following hugely different scenarios could happen:

 

Humanity annihilates itself and the rest of the universe by accidentally creating a true vacuum (as opposed to the false vacuum that some scientists say exists now)

Humanity is annihilated due to a bioterrorist

Humanity is annihilated due to a nuclear war

One of the above two options, but humanity had already created a self-sustaining base on Mars before dying on Earth, and thus has a small population still living

Humanity has a nuclear war; the few humans surviving on Earth cannot rebuild civilization due to lack of fossil fuels

1984-type dystopian future

It turns out creating greater-than-human intelligences is not possible due to being unable to replicate the workings of the human brain in technology, and humanity stays at a similar technological level to now

Humanity creates better-than-human intelligence and is wiped out by the robots it created

Humanity creates better-than-human intelligence; realizes that existence is pointless and commits suicide

Humans advance to such a level that then have taken a radically different form (like a hive mind) and are unrecognizable

Due to the possible existential risk of AI, humans decide to stop progressing technologically and remain the level they are now

Humanity escapes from this universe and discovers another one more favorable

Humans work out they are in a simulation and escape.

Humans live in a utopian lifestyle and start expanding throughout the galaxy

Humans create a runaway greenhouse effect; Earth becomes uninhabitable and all humans die

 

 

Fell free to add more possibilities :)


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Even 2200 AD is extremely difficult to speculate.

 

 

No need to go that far. Anything past 2030 becomes kind of hard to predict, except for predictions based on statistic, which could still be wrong by then because of some other factor such as a war or a significal technological breaktrhough. 



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If you look at future predictions of the 21st century that were made even in the 1990s, it can show how unexpected even 20 years into the future can be. It's odd to think that the "futuristic" images we create will be seen as old-fashioned and obsolete by the time the time they depict actually arrives.

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I have an animated series in which the year 1,002,010 AD is pivotal to the plot. It doesn't really go for realism so much as it goes for creating an incredibly alien, secretly dystopian setting.

 

Basically humans have stagnated technologically for eons because Those in Power decided that transcendential technology would ultimately result in the breakdown of the social order. The back story is essentially a tale of transhumanism gone wrong. A tiny little resistance has surfaced, consisting of a mad scientist and a social reject. The mad scientist has gotten his hands on ancient secrets and forbidden time travel technology, and the social reject is his test dummy. This is the premise of my animated sci-fi half-parody-half-not series, ET (ExoTemporal) Excursion.

 

Oh yeah, and humans of that era resemble Greys.


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Actually, predictions that are made recently are becoming more and more accurate than predictions made in the past which i find pretty interesting. Alot more research and scientific groundwork comes into making predictions today. Although they are not always accurate, the depiction of life in 2100 I believe will be alot better than the depiction of life in 2000 as compared to 1900. and the same for 1900 as compared to 1800 (that ones obvious). 

 

There are certain things that we know 100% for certain in the coming future, because trends are starting today. 

 

Here are some lists of 100%'s:

Ubiquitous computing

Fusion Power

Longevity

Revolutionary 3D printing

Driverless cars

Artificial Intelligence

Augmented Reality

Virtual Reality

Super-fast computation

Quantum Computing

Nanobots

Flying Cars

 

The list goes on and on. Although we do not know the exact date of these releases, we can speculate the general timeframe from their individual rate of advancements, and get a pretty accurate sense of when the technology will be released, and what type of impact / use will it have on society.

 

Because of this, i think up to 2100 is fairly accurate. To an extent. But anything after that is fair game; Every year that goes by in the start of the 22nd century will be like 5 years of progress (or more!!) than at the start of the 2000's. Who knows; mars might even be habitable by 2150. We can't begin comprehend what kind of things we'll be capable by next century.


Edited by Squillimy, 14 August 2013 - 06:20 PM.

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Actually, predictions that are made recently are becoming more and more accurate than predictions made in the past which i find pretty interesting. Alot more research and scientific groundwork comes into making predictions today. Although they are not always accurate, the depiction of life in 2100 I believe will be alot better than the depiction of life in 2000 as compared to 1900. and the same for 1900 as compared to 1800 (that ones obvious). 

 

There are certain things that we know 100% for certain in the coming future, because trends are starting today. 

 

Here are some lists of 100%'s:

Ubiquitous computing

Fusion Power

Longevity

Revolutionary 3D printing

Driverless cars

Artificial Intelligence

Augmented Reality

Virtual Reality

Super-fast computation

Quantum Computing

Nanobots

Flying Cars

Nowhere near 100%. 

Computing will almost certainly appear in a wider range of contexts, but the question is, how wide? It's difficult to predict what will and what won't be a feasible place to have computing.

Fusion power: Is possible, but it's also possible that solar will turn out to be cheaper and we will forget about fusion

Longevity: Completely unknown. In the developed world, life expectancy will probably be at least 90, but beyond that? we have no idea. SENS is a good starting point, but we don't know how easy it will be to succeed in SENS's goals, whether the government will fund life extension research due to fears of overpopulation, whether there are other factors contributing to aging apart from SENS.

3D printing- yes this will likely have a big impact but not everything can be made out of plastic.

Driverless cars: Also likely to have a big impact in the developed world. That's assuming we have not got a more efficient transport system.

AI- Will probably happen.

VR- It will happen to some extent, but how good those machines are and how widespread they will be is debatable

super-fast computation: Correct up to a point where the computing parts simply cannot be minimized any more, and also consumes a lot of energy. will there be enough energy to power these machines?

Quantum computing: Will have a significant impact, but quantum computers do have limitations, they can't solve every problem much faster than a classical computer

nanobots: Purely hypothetical, it could be either impossible to build them or impractical to build them on a widespread scale

Flying cars: Probably won't happen. Have been possible for a long time, but not economical.

 

And all of this is assuming no world war/terrorist threat etc that will halt techonlogical development/reduce humanity to pre-industrial technology/cause the extinction of humanity etc


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Nowhere near 100%. 

Computing will almost certainly appear in a wider range of contexts, but the question is, how wide? It's difficult to predict what will and what won't be a feasible place to have computing.

Fusion power: Is possible, but it's also possible that solar will turn out to be cheaper and we will forget about fusion

Longevity: Completely unknown. In the developed world, life expectancy will probably be at least 90, but beyond that? we have no idea. SENS is a good starting point, but we don't know how easy it will be to succeed in SENS's goals, whether the government will fund life extension research due to fears of overpopulation, whether there are other factors contributing to aging apart from SENS.

3D printing- yes this will likely have a big impact but not everything can be made out of plastic.

Driverless cars: Also likely to have a big impact in the developed world. That's assuming we have not got a more efficient transport system.

AI- Will probably happen.

VR- It will happen to some extent, but how good those machines are and how widespread they will be is debatable

super-fast computation: Correct up to a point where the computing parts simply cannot be minimized any more, and also consumes a lot of energy. will there be enough energy to power these machines?

Quantum computing: Will have a significant impact, but quantum computers do have limitations, they can't solve every problem much faster than a classical computer

nanobots: Purely hypothetical, it could be either impossible to build them or impractical to build them on a widespread scale

Flying cars: Probably won't happen. Have been possible for a long time, but not economical.

 

And all of this is assuming no world war/terrorist threat etc that will halt techonlogical development/reduce humanity to pre-industrial technology/cause the extinction of humanity etc

 

How is Ubiquitous computing not a gaurantee? By following a trend thats been going on for 50 years, one can already see that the price of computation will drop drastically to practically nothing in the coming years. And by coming years I mean in the early 2020's, Even if you're taking into effect moores law stopping at that point and no replacement is found. Yet that itself is a ridiculous statement because we are already discovering alternatives today. Science does not just simply hit "dead ends".

 

Regardless of whether or not Solar Power is cheaper than Fusion, Fusion still yields more power and would still be used in combination with Solar.

 

Longevity is not unknown because we've already proved early forms of it to work in mice. Aging is a purely scientific process. It's not some "magical" thing that cannot be altered.

 

3D Printing is shown to work with other materials besides plastics, such as metals and concrete already

 

it's a common misconception but AI does not necessarily mean human level artificial intelligence. Yet software improves every year, just not at the rate that hardware does.

 

If fusion powers possible, then the energy issue you mentioned with super-fast computation is solved.

 

Impossible to build nanobots? Saying this is the same thing as saying its impossible to build nanostructures that support an individual function, yet you already know we have trillions of these in our body. Besides, Nanotechnology already exists. Ever taken antibiotics? Also, 3D printers can already assemble artificial cells. Artificial cells that have already been created.

 

Also with reduced cost of energy as well as automated transportation systems, flying cars probably will happen. A large reason they haven't is because humans are the drivers, where as it needs to be an automated controlled system.

 

I agree that this does not take into effect world war or whatever, but I don't believe you realize that war actually SPEEDS UP innovation, science, and technology. Not slows it down. If you don't believe me just look at the history. Many scientific achievements occured because of war and shortage of resources. Agriculture, Bronze, Iron, Steel, Catapult, Long bow, Horse drawn carriage, Fighter jets, Bombs, Nuclear power, Internet. Also, war creates new applications and tools for these things to be used. 

 

So when you say nowhere near 100%? That's a very pessimistic view for a futurist


Edited by Squillimy, 15 August 2013 - 12:13 AM.

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I agree with Squillimy, I think that we will have all of the technologies he listed by 2100, and I'd say we can be 95-100% sure of that.

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Kardashev scale type 3? What a HUGE leap forward! Hopefully I'll be around to see this :D


Counting down the days until 2050: 12,499 Humanity = 0.72 on the Kardashev scale
Counting down the days until 2100: 30,761
Counting down the days until 3000: 359,479





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