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So at this point it's become pretty much established that nano-tech will have practically unlimited applications when the field has become mastered. Engineering machines and materials on the molecular level will certainly create some interesting results.

 

So what would be the practical benefits of femto-technology, exactly? What would engineering machines and materials on the subatomic level do for us?

 

I guess after that we couldn't get much smaller, unless we can start building with quantum foam or strings or whatever quarks are made of.


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If we could create sub-atomic machines, wouldn't we able to change atoms themselves? (i.e. literally turn water into wine).



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I guess so, but I think the main thing to consider here is that there will be protons, neutrons, electrons... and then whatever the hell we manage to create with this. I can't even imagine the kind of potential.

I guess we could build antimatter?

The heat death of the Universe won't affect us if we can make protons faster than they decay.

 

I think femto-tech is where things really start to stray into sufficiently-advanced "magic" territory.


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I think femto-tech is where things really start to stray into sufficiently-advanced "magic" territory.

 

Yeah, scary advanced enough to accidentally turn ourselves into a syrup in a matter of seconds. :)


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SENTIENT syrup!!


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SENTIENT syrup!!

 

Yeah, delicious... perhaps I can acquire knowledge by its consumption.


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In all seriousness, femto-tech could really make anything possible. When we can create exotic matter, there's no telling the potential. I was thinking about this last night, getting really excited for the 2100's.


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In all seriousness, femto-tech could really make anything possible. When we can create exotic matter, there's no telling the potential. I was thinking about this last night, getting really excited for the 2100's.

 

Curious about one thing - why are you excited about the 2100's knowing there is a small chance you won't live to see the next century? As for myself, I'd be worried!


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I don't even have to see the next century to be excited about it, if this is where humanity is ultimately headed I want my grandchildren and great-grandchildren to experience it. I just want to create the best future I can for my descendants.


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If we could create sub-atomic machines, wouldn't we able to change atoms themselves? (i.e. literally turn water into wine).

 

We'd have to be careful that we don't trigger a thermonuclear explosion from doing such a thing. xD

 

That said, there are several theories about proton decay. The most thorny will probably be due to X-boson interactions. So I think we'd need something on a scale finer than femtotechnology to prevent something like that from happening.


Edited by Ru1138, 22 August 2013 - 07:14 PM.

What difference does it make?


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Maybe we could make negative matter therefore creating anti-gravity with fempto tech. But personally I agree fempto technology could make the Anti-matter factory a real possibility in order to supply for our energy consumption in the 22nd century, after we're done with fusion energy! I think that'll suit our energy needs for a while lol.

 

But all of those are complete guesses and since i really don't understand alot about physics I could be wrong.


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Heck, why not imagine a string or LQG level technology? Just change the state of the string or loop and voila! Particulate alchemy!


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Curious about one thing - why are you excited about the 2100's knowing there is a small chance you won't live to see the next century? As for myself, I'd be worried!


I think that you meant to say: "(...)there is a small chance that you will live to see the next century?"
Am I correct in assuming so?

 

Ha ha, I suspected someone would think so.

 

No, you wound me! If you read my posts in other threads, you would know that I am an optmistic longevity/anti-aging proponent. I meant exactly what I said in the above post. :)

 

Small chance we won't live to the next century = probability of being in a fatal accident you had no control to prevent.


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Maybe we could make the stuff needed to create and stabilize wormholes, making FTL travel possible. 



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I think femto-engineeering would allow us to manipulate physics around us.

 

Anti-gravity, wormholes, alcubierre drives, anit-matter prepulsion, anti-matter bombs, etc.

 

Yes, I think magic is a great word for explaining the ramifications of femto-engineering.  I wonder how long it will take to actually engineer on that level.  It may take humanity a loong time to get there, way after 2100.  Or I could be wrong.  I hope I'm wrong.


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Nano tech would allow a great many miracles as is. old shoes into food. new hearts printed from a toddlers soiled diaper. ect

 

There are limits though. iron could not be made into gold and thus you encounter rareity of certain elements but the things with the most profound effect on life are based in the commonest elements.

 

Where it becomes more interesting is in tech that requires exotic elements and energy. If we look for the rarest elements in the universe we may find only a handfull that we can access on the planet. But if they someday prove to be the key to warpdrive or instant cross universe communications then being able to whip up a batch will be most valuble.


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Jeez overreaction


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Jeez dude that is not what I took away from Raklian's message at all. :(


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So what would be the practical benefits of femto-technology, exactly? What would engineering machines and materials on the subatomic level do for us?
I think SG-1 probably has the best ideas for this topic. I haven't put a large amount of thought on what we could do below the level of atomic precision. Just at the scale of atoms and manipulating them to exact precision has an insane amount of potential and is enough to lead us to a Type I civilization, create super intelligence, etc.
I guess we could build antimatter? The heat death of the Universe won't affect us if we can make protons faster than they decay.
Yes, we could build antimatter with this sort of technology, but it would not solve the heat death of the Universe. A proton has an unimaginably large lower boundary on lifetime... so it's not the sort of issue that we need to worry about right now. But it's not the proton decay that is worrisome--it's entropy and the expansion of space (Dark Energy increasing). It's not conceivable with our understanding of physics that using this technology to rebuild the world as it decays and becomes more entropic as doing so would consume energy in the proccess, and only increase entropy. Other than exploiting parallel universes and such, I don't see an out for solving entropy.  
[...] fempto technology could make the Anti-matter factory a real possibility in order to supply for our energy consumption in the 22nd century
Again, as before, I believe we could use this technology to create antimatter. But doing so would cost energy, more than we would get out of it. It's likely that there was much more antimatter in the beginning of the universe, and that it annihilated with matter releasing energy.

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