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When will 100% perfect health be possible?


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Poll: 100% Perfect Health (33 member(s) have cast votes)

When will 100% perfect health be possible?

  1. Voted Before 2500 (23 votes [69.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.70%

  2. 2500 - 2600 (4 votes [12.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.12%

  3. 2600 - 2700 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2700 - 2800 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 2800 - 2900 (1 votes [3.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.03%

  6. 2900 - 3000 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 3000 - 3500 (3 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  8. 3500 - 4000 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. 4000 - 5000 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. After 5000 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  11. Never (2 votes [6.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.06%

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#41
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^ We will always be at war, constantly with coming up with ways to outsmart, out-do or destroy the other. This is inherent in an universe ruled by entropy.

 

 

I think the battles will be a lot more vicious in the future. Think we're having it hard at trying to find a cure for cancer or HIV? Well, try waiting for the next century. We know nothing! :)

 

Really?

 

http://www.singulari...ts/page331.html

 

I'm talking about war at the nanoscale.


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If there are zero incurable conditions by 2300, I will personally pay you all £50 each to go and buy a few drinks for you and your mates. Seriously, I think some people here are unrealistically optimistic. Sure, we all want it to happen, but it's too far-fetched.

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If there are zero incurable conditions by 2300, I will personally pay you all £50 each to go and buy a few drinks for you and your mates. Seriously, I think some people here are unrealistically optimistic. Sure, we all want it to happen, but it's too far-fetched.

 

I'll push it even more far-fetched. We will cure all existing cancers by 2050. But preventing them from happening in the first place is something else though.


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I am more optimistic about this I calculate that, by the middle of the next century we will achieve that. I believe that, because of the new Ais, that will have enough capacity to solve all that problems. And I do think, that our society as we know it, well change dramatically, making the advancements in medicine available for a lot of people.



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@Raklian: So, in your opinion, what will be the first things (dieseases, injuries, damage in general) we will see healed and/or regenerated?


Edited by Lily, 05 September 2013 - 06:24 PM.

"All scientific advancement due to intellegence overcoming, compensating, for limitations. Can't carry a load, so invent wheel. Can't catch food, so invent spear. Limitations. No limitations, no advancement. No advancement, culture stagnates. Works other way too. Advancement before culture is ready. Disastrous."

There's definitely truth in that...


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@Raklian: So, in your opinion, what will be the first things (dieseases, injuries, damage in general) we will see healed and/or regenerated?

 

We're talking about cancer. As for injuries and damage in general, I am not sure about the prognosis.

 

It is not looking for or figuring out a cure for cancer that is the problem. We already have the tools to cure cancer. Really, the problem is the lack of funding or resources necessary to get into the clinic trials stage of R&D.

 

Click on the link below to read an article that shows how close we are to potentially solving cancer for once and all, but lack of funding is leaving the "cure" in the freezer to degrade with no one to try it. I thought it was pretty well-written, kind of a story.

 

http://www.telegraph...-the-coldc.html


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If there are zero incurable conditions by 2300, I will personally pay you all £50 each to go and buy a few drinks for you and your mates. Seriously, I think some people here are unrealistically optimistic. Sure, we all want it to happen, but it's too far-fetched.

 

But how is it "far fetched" when - on current trends - we'll easily defeat ALL cancers by 2200, many of them sooner?

 

http://www.futuretim...g/2013/04/1.htm

 

If we can 100% defeat cancers, including the deadliest and most complex types (as indicated by [color=#ff0000;]current trends[/color]), surely it's reasonable to assume that pretty much every other type of ailment will be conquered too?

 

You seem to be implying that research/progress will dramatically slow down. The past several centuries of scientific thought and progress would indicate that your statement is completely illogical.



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I believe that medical science will progress at the same rate until 2090 maybe a bit faster but not more. things will boom after 2130.



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 Have you took a trip to the hospital? not that I wish it to you...but go to any public hospital for first aid and see how you will be treated and what they can offer. in 20-30 years it is too late for me to enjoy life the way I want and I doubt there will be more progress then there is now.  I forcast more stem cells to be used, more precise x-rays if we are lucky enough, maybe some alert device inside or out of the body that gives you alert, Leonardo robots and more 3D images and devices but even in 20 years the situation in treating diseases will be only a bit better then now. you have to wait next century to start to see s some consistent progress. by the way singularity won't make speed progress for at least a while.

I don't think I've had any hospital visitations since I broke my foot when I was five years old, but I suppose I could ask my mom sometime how much she thinks the medical field's improved in recent decades; she's been a nurse since 1985. I won't bother trying to refute your points despite the fact that I juggled a few counterpoints in my mind, as we are both clearly set in our opinions and, more importantly, I am lazy. Time will tell the truth of the matter, and I firmly believe that it will tell many more positive things than you imagine.



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If there are zero incurable conditions by 2300, I will personally pay you all £50 each to go and buy a few drinks for you and your mates. Seriously, I think some people here are unrealistically optimistic. Sure, we all want it to happen, but it's too far-fetched.

I don't think money will have much use by then lol. If technology can keep progressing at current or faster rates than today, then we'll have more access to better 3D printers than today. But hey, I can't predict the future, so see you in 287 years!!



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I think we need an enterprise like Microsoft or Goggle in Health Care. That would change things.....but there is not such a thing...



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Yeah, that's a good idea. Google's actually starting to attempt to advance medical technology nowadays as part of their plan to take over the world (as benevolent monarchs, of course - I love Google and think they're one of the human race's greatest assets), trying to bring things like life extension into the general consciousness.


Edited by Casey, 06 September 2013 - 12:41 AM.


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Yeah, that's a good idea. Google's actually starting to attempt to advance medical technology nowadays as part of their plan to take over the world (as benevolent monarchs, of course - I love Google and think they're one of the human race's greatest allies), trying to bring things like life extension into the general consciousness.

 

where did you get these news?



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I think I read something late last year, or early this year, about how Google plans to add life extension options as some of its employee benefits by 2017, or something along those lines. I'm having trouble finding the article at the moment, but I'm fairly certain that my memory is somewhere in the right ballpark far as accuracy goes.



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I believe that medical science will progress at the same rate until 2090 maybe a bit faster but not more. things will boom after 2130.

 

Why after 2130? What's going to happen then?



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I think it's more of a case of users here being too optimistic than the poll being too pessamistic. I don't see any "current trends" to suggest that ALL diseases will be curable by 2200. There's more to health than cancer.

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I think we need an enterprise like Microsoft or Goggle in Health Care. That would change things.....but there is not such a thing...

 

SENS Foundation is probably the closest thing. It's just a budding organization that will eventually expand when more and more people have started to realize Aubrey de Grey's vision is not so crazy after all.


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I believe that medical science will progress at the same rate until 2090 maybe a bit faster but not more. things will boom after 2130.

 

Why after 2130? What's going to happen then?

 

We will understand the body fully and start to implement appropiate individual therapies. not like now.



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We already have the Human Genome Project, and sequencing costs have improved faster than Moore's Law. Soon everyone will have a copy of their own genome, made possible by companies like 23andMe. This will allow targetted individual therapies to start becoming a reality. In fact they're already emerging as an option, with the first gene therapy in the Western world - Glybera - commercialised this year.

 

Why would we wait until 2130 before starting to use these? We don't need to "fully" understand the body to "start" implementing gene therapy. We can have a partial knowledge and still achieve great things.



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If there are zero incurable conditions by 2300, I will personally pay you all £50 each to go and buy a few drinks for you and your mates. Seriously, I think some people here are unrealistically optimistic. Sure, we all want it to happen, but it's too far-fetched.

 

Too bad money will be useless by then :(


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