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Will humans ever use sentient AI?


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Brohanne Jahms

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Uh, what makes you think that?



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I hope we can before humanity destroys its self.



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Sentience means the AI is aware that it exists. Does that mean it needs emotions? Probably not.

 

Exactly. Just because an AI is sentinent, doesn't mean that it can have emotions.

 

 

So, are you saying AI can't have emotions?

 

 

Full Definition of SENTIENT 1 : responsive to or conscious of sense impressions <sentient beings> 2 : aware 3 : finely sensitive in perception or feeling — sen·tient·ly adverb

 

 

Then the answer to his question is no, we will never use fully sentinent AI, it will be aware that it exists, but no emotions. If AIs have emotions, than in most cases it will end up with us being killed.

 

 

What is it, do you think, that an animal's brain has that AI wouldn't have? Do you think emotions come from somewhere other than the brain?



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What I'm saying is, if we create robots that are such aware of their existence that "abusing" them would be a crime, what would be the point in creating them?

  Who said anything about abusing them? We could cooperate them in the fields of science and/or integrate them into society. Although we likely wouldn't create several of them, There's no reason that they'd be distinguishable from humans. They could even be engineered to have human skin.
LOL @ "Who said anything about abusing them?" - that was the question I was asking when I created this thread! Creating sentient AI would be stupid when we could have non-sentient AI that works just as well.

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Sentience means the AI is aware that it exists. Does that mean it needs emotions? Probably not.

 

Exactly. Just because an AI is sentinent, doesn't mean that it can have emotions.

 

 

So, are you saying AI can't have emotions?

 

 

Full Definition of SENTIENT 1 : responsive to or conscious of sense impressions <sentient beings> 2 : aware 3 : finely sensitive in perception or feeling — sen·tient·ly adverb

 

 

Then the answer to his question is no, we will never use fully sentinent AI, it will be aware that it exists, but no emotions. If AIs have emotions, than in most cases it will end up with us being killed.

 

 

What is it, do you think, that an animal's brain has that AI wouldn't have? Do you think emotions come from somewhere other than the brain?

 

 

I am NOT saying that emotions don't come from the brain. We won't use fully sentinent AI not because we can't emulate emotions, but because that would be our worst mistake ever.

 

We only need AI which is sentinent and aware, no need for emotions.


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One problem- no emotions, apathy reigns (as far as we know). The AI could kill billions and not care. The lack of emotions is psychopathy. We've already had to deal with psychopaths running things for... thousands of years! The last thing we need is a psychopathic artificial god.

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One problem- no emotions, apathy reigns (as far as we know). The AI could kill billions and not care. The lack of emotions is psychopathy. We've already had to deal with psychopaths running things for... thousands of years! The last thing we need is a psychopathic artificial god.

 

Our brains, and the brains of higher animals, probably developed emotions because they are the seat of motivation and context. Without either, AI would be limited in my view. AI would need emotion to understand human behavior and thinking and to interact appropriately with us. Robotic engineers are already working with the  fundamentals of emotion as we speak.

 

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The ultimate goal of humanity has always been to replicate itself. It's natural for us to want to create images of ourselves, even yet, perfect images of ourselves.



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The ultimate goal of humanity has always been to replicate itself. It's natural for us to want to create images of ourselves, even yet, perfect images of ourselves.

 

I remember reading in christian apocalyptic literature that the 'Beast' in the last days would create 'an image of himself that could speak'. Perhaps the old prophets were looking ahead after all...



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I remember reading in christian apocalyptic literature that the 'Beast' in the last days would create 'an image of himself that could speak'. Perhaps the old prophets were looking ahead after all...

 



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^ lol wtf? haha

 

Robots will likely have emotions because emotions represent part of a model of how we understand our consciousness and how it works. Emotions isn't just mad, sad, happy, angry etc. It's much more complicated than that; and saying that it isn't is just like saying the 4 elements of the universe are earth, water, wind, and fire. Maybe if you live in the 18th century you can happily follow those beliefs, but that's not the case anymore.

 

Because we are trying to create artificial intelligence modeled from our own brains, I find it unlikely that it'd even work without emotions. Without emotions, what is driving the intelligence? Why does it help scientist with research? In what direction is it's ability aimed at? How does it make decisions? Emotions are things that lead us into being able to carry out these tasks and more. The issue goes much further than the robot not being able to "care" or having "apathy". I doubt if a robot has no emotions, it can have "consciousness", because you'd need hard-wire exactly what it needs to do, or what its purpose is. And that is not "consciousness". You could get around this by making "smart algorithms" that can solve these issues and self-learn, but is this not just a simulated and crude version of what Emotions themselves are? In fact that sounds a lot like the robots we have today, and why we are having issues creating true AI. Decision making, cognition, and Emotions are not mutually exclusive. Atleast I do not believe they are.


Edited by Squillimy, 17 September 2013 - 05:13 PM.

What becomes of man when the things that man can create are greater than man itself?


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I remember reading in christian apocalyptic literature that the 'Beast' in the last days would create 'an image of himself that could speak'. Perhaps the old prophets were looking ahead after all...

 

And the last days will be consumed of fire in a final battle of Angels VS Demons VS Humans VS Robots. LOL

 

Movie idea!!!


Edited by Squillimy, 17 September 2013 - 05:17 PM.

What becomes of man when the things that man can create are greater than man itself?





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