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Why I think FTL travel could happen next century!


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According 2 the timeline we won't be jumping to warp speed until a billion A.D. I think this is long overdue. I have no idea how we could go FTL but I think we will figure it out in 2150-90. So we should have nanotechnology quantum computers in the far century. Now these computers may be designed for A .I. Purposes . These computers can improve themselves. Making one smarter and more powerful in an ex potential growth. We could then reach computers such as A.I "gods" with godlike super intelligence. They may hit a barrier but they can still keep on improving themselves more and more. These god tech computers then can solve the impossible designs and mathematics for FTL travel. They can construct these ships and prove their theories until one is made . I may be wrong but this could be a scenario that plays out.

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Your theory is a bit optimistic but I agree that the other one is ridiculous. I personally think first methods of practical interstellar travel(almost certainly from generators with enough energy to warp space) will first appear somewhere in the 2500s and start to be massively used by the 2700s.



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I'm with you guys, the absolute latest I could imagine would be about, 3500 AD, but I think 2700-2900 is more realistic. If we don't have it by then I would say its just downright impossible until we can rewrite the laws of physics.



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Femtotechnology will allow us to manufacture custom subatomic particles from quarks. Once we can make femtotech, we will be able to do just about anything, including rewrite the laws of physics.


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Femtotechnology will allow us to manufacture custom subatomic particles from quarks. Once we can make femtotech, we will be able to do just about anything, including rewrite the laws of physics.

 

I think we have to go deeper for rewriting physics. Zeptotech or yoctotech perhaps? Maybe even plancktech.


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if they manage to pull off a warp field in the next fifteen years, which I can only guess at but think they seem to actually be working towards, then I imagine there will be a hard core push to try and implement it for in solar system manned exploration and colonization. and unmanned probes to nearby star systems. imagine in fifteen years several probes are sent out and even if just one makes it, five years later we have the first video of another solar system and star from within the system itself.

 

I think it would take something truely horrific to happen on earth for that not to generate a new space race. pushing hard for a warp drive that is a two way system. allowing a year long human crew to visit whole other star systems.

 

I can see that happening all in the next 120 years, provided that a viable warp feild can in fact me made in the next few years as they are experimenting with now, and that it proved reproducable and safe for human life and scalable. I mean, damn just think about that. going from a crawl between planets in our solar system on chemical rockets taking months to travel between the earth and asteroid belt taking maybe a half hour. Then alpha centauri taking  few months.


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I think we have to go deeper for rewriting physics. Zeptotech or yoctotech perhaps? Maybe even plancktech.

Hmm, according to this article the electromagnetic and weak nuclear forces can both be mediated by potential X and Y particles on the zepto-scale. Perhaps that is the route to FTL?


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Harold "Sonny" White is a revolutionary thinker, if not the original one - that award goes to Miguel Alcubierre of Mexico.

 

Part of my dissertation is about this. I need the equations that make warp drive theoretically possible for a different theory.


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I'm going to say we need to figure out what the hell dark matter and dark energy are first, and then once we know that, we will be able to give a prediction as to when or if FTL will be possible.  Until then, it's just throwing darts at a dartboard.


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Femtotechnology will allow us to manufacture custom subatomic particles from quarks. Once we can make femtotech, we will be able to do just about anything, including rewrite the laws of physics.

 

[color=#ee82ee;][font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif;"]So,antigravity will be possible as well.[/color][/font]



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NASA estimate that we will achieve FTL travel based on Alcubierre's drive by 2100. I think that the estimate is reasonable and I tend to agree with it.


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Femtotechnology will allow us to manufacture custom subatomic particles from quarks. Once we can make femtotech, we will be able to do just about anything, including rewrite the laws of physics.

 

[color=#ee82ee;][font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif;"]So,antigravity will be possible as well.[/color][/font]

 

 

The femtoscale is far larger than the smallest possible scale. Saying we could do anything with femtotech would be like someone in the paleolithic saying we could do anything with a more exact stone axe.


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Femtotechnology will allow us to manufacture custom subatomic particles from quarks. Once we can make femtotech, we will be able to do just about anything, including rewrite the laws of physics.

 

[color=#ee82ee;][font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif;"]So,antigravity will be possible as well.[/color][/font]

 

 

The femtoscale is far larger than the smallest possible scale. Saying we could do anything with femtotech would be like someone in the paleolithic saying we could do anything with a more exact stone axe.

 

 

Heh, you reminded me of the "transsimianism" story.


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Well, the fact is we don't know exactly just what we could do with femtotech or anything smaller. I guess it was foolish of me to say that so certainly.

 

Photons are simultaneously quantum particles and waves. I'd like to think that if we can make stuff out of quarks, we it might be possible to make a similar particle that can travel faster than a photon. That is, technically, FTL technology.


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Well, the fact is we don't know exactly just what we could do with femtotech or anything smaller. I guess it was foolish of me to say that so certainly.

 

Photons are simultaneously quantum particles and waves. I'd like to think that if we can make stuff out of quarks, we it might be possible to make a similar particle that can travel faster than a photon. That is, technically, FTL technology.

 

While you might like to think that it will happen, it most likely won't, as blunt FTL travel is pretty much clearly impossible - c is the speed at which everything with zero mass travels, in order to travel at a speed higher than c, you need complex mass instead of a real one, which makes no sense.

If FTL is possible, it almost certainly will come from somehow bending that law by not actually traveling faster than c, but effectively doing that, in example, how Alcubierre's drives or wormholes handle that.


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While you might like to think that it will happen, it most likely won't, as blunt FTL travel is pretty much clearly impossible - c is the speed at which everything with zero mass travels, in order to travel at a speed higher than c, you need complex mass instead of a real one, which makes no sense.

If FTL is possible, it almost certainly will come from somehow bending that law by not actually traveling faster than c, but effectively doing that, in example, how Alcubierre's drives or wormholes handle that.

 

It is theoretically possible to "move" faster than the speed of light, the trick is not to do the moving yourself, but to get space time itself to warp in such a way that you are carried along for the ride. Look up the Alcubierre drive and the video I posted earlier in the thread.



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While you might like to think that it will happen, it most likely won't, as blunt FTL travel is pretty much clearly impossible - c is the speed at which everything with zero mass travels, in order to travel at a speed higher than c, you need complex mass instead of a real one, which makes no sense.

If FTL is possible, it almost certainly will come from somehow bending that law by not actually traveling faster than c, but effectively doing that, in example, how Alcubierre's drives or wormholes handle that.

 

It is theoretically possible to "move" faster than the speed of light, the trick is not to do the moving yourself, but to get space time itself to warp in such a way that you are carried along for the ride. Look up the Alcubierre drive and the video I posted earlier in the thread.

 

 

Did you even read my post?


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Sorry, skim read.



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Well, the fact is we don't know exactly just what we could do with femtotech or anything smaller. I guess it was foolish of me to say that so certainly.

Photons are simultaneously quantum particles and waves. I'd like to think that if we can make stuff out of quarks, we it might be possible to make a similar particle that can travel faster than a photon. That is, technically, FTL technology.


While you might like to think that it will happen, it most likely won't, as blunt FTL travel is pretty much clearly impossible - c is the speed at which everything with zero mass travels, in order to travel at a speed higher than c, you need complex mass instead of a real one, which makes no sense.
If FTL is possible, it almost certainly will come from somehow bending that law by not actually traveling faster than c, but effectively doing that, in example, how Alcubierre's drives or wormholes handle that.

If we have femto,Atto or maybe yoctotechnology
Can't we use that to create complex mass particles ? Which go faster than light ?




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