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Do you think immortality is possible?


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Okay, to clear things up a bit, I'll have to say that maybe "immortality" can't be fully achieved, but maybe we can just extend our lifespans long enough so that we can see our great-grandchildren or maybe our great-great grandchildren, But, this will require a lot of time and effort to develop and it might not be for everyone and if it were, you'd have people who would shun it because they want to experience death. I'll be honest, I am afraid of dying, especially from something as dangerous and sad as cancer or murder, I just hope that humanity is able to achieve this within my lifetime.

As long as you're below 50, there is a good chance that this technology will developed in your lifetime.
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Why do you say 50 Conor?  I like to be positive about it but I'm careful not to get my hopes up.


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First will come life extension to say around 130+ years old

Will this initially only be for individuals who would otherwise still live to age 100+, though?



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As long as you're below 50, there is a good chance that this technology will developed in your lifetime.

Yes, where and how exactly did you get this specific age?



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Well, Ray Kurzweil is above 60 and he is confident that he will become immortal under 3 decades from now.


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Well, Ray Kurzweil is above 60 and he is confident that he will become immortal under 3 decades from now.

Does he care about being immortal? I always thought he was the kind of guy to accept the ending of life.

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Well, Ray Kurzweil is above 60 and he is confident that he will become immortal under 3 decades from now.

Does he care about being immortal? I always thought he was the kind of guy to accept the ending of life.

 

 

Nope. It's kinda obvious that he's scared if you watch some of his interviews or the documentary transcendent man. He was clearly shocked by his father's death. To the point he plans to actually resurrect him. 



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First will come life extension to say around 130+ years old

Will this initially only be for individuals who would otherwise still live to age 100+, though?

 

This is all hypothetical as I'm just a dreamer like most people but I'd like to think that that kind of life extension would be for everyone that is willing to pay for the treatment. I would assume that initially it would cost a fair bit for the kind of medical treatment needed to extend your life an extra 40-50 years, but within a few decades of it being possible more and more people would be able to afford it as the cost is driven down and further advancements are made.

 

So if you can't afford to extend your life to the maximum your doctor's can offer you, you can extend it a lesser extent until the costs are lower and then extend it further :)


“If the genius of invention were to reveal to-morrow the secret of immortality, of eternal beauty and youth, for which all humanity is aching, the same inexorable agents which prevent a mass from changing suddenly its velocity would likewise resist the force of the new knowledge until time gradually modifies human thought.” 

 

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Well, Ray Kurzweil is above 60 and he is confident that he will become immortal under 3 decades from now.

Does he care about being immortal? I always thought he was the kind of guy to accept the ending of life.

 

 

Nope. It's kinda obvious that he's scared if you watch some of his interviews or the documentary transcendent man. He was clearly shocked by his father's death. To the point he plans to actually resurrect him. 

Is his dad cryogenically preserved right now?



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Well, Ray Kurzweil is above 60 and he is confident that he will become immortal under 3 decades from now.

This might not be that surprising, considering that by that point in time he will be around 90 years old (if he is still alive at that point in time) and probably nearing the end of his natural lifespan. ;)



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Is his dad cryogenically preserved right now?

No. Kurzweil plans to resurrect his father through the large amount of material he has collected on him.

 

Personally, I don't think that will work.


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He acknowledged that it would only be an AI with his personality

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Why do you say 50 Conor?  I like to be positive about it but I'm careful not to get my hopes up.

I just think that after 50, your odds of reaching life-extension technology diminishes a lot with every year that goes by. And also because those of us who haven't reached middle age still have a good enough chance to escape aging velocity, or whatever it's called.
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Actuarial Escape Velocity.


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Why do you say 50 Conor?  I like to be positive about it but I'm careful not to get my hopes up.

I just think that after 50, your odds of reaching life-extension technology diminishes a lot with every year that goes by. And also because those of us who haven't reached middle age still have a good enough chance to escape aging velocity, or whatever it's called.

 

 

 

Also, you can cure a lot of the illnesses and diseases you would likely die from in old age.



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Why do you say 50 Conor?  I like to be positive about it but I'm careful not to get my hopes up.

I just think that after 50, your odds of reaching life-extension technology diminishes a lot with every year that goes by. And also because those of us who haven't reached middle age still have a good enough chance to escape aging velocity, or whatever it's called.
    Also, you can cure a lot of the illnesses and diseases you would likely die from in old age.
Bit elderly people nowadays will likely dies before this is possible.
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This is speculative.

Wait until nanotechnology can keep your cells in perfect shape, and then upload your mind into a computer. Most people don't realize that uploading can be done by sending nanobots into the brain that take over brain cells one by one, and then the nano-brain can be soaked into a computer substrate, just like water is soaked up by a sponge. Nothing to be afraid of, people replace brain cells all the time organically. And then, after that, wait  a very long until there is an escape from the current universe we inhabit.



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Why do you say 50 Conor?  I like to be positive about it but I'm careful not to get my hopes up.

I just think that after 50, your odds of reaching life-extension technology diminishes a lot with every year that goes by. And also because those of us who haven't reached middle age still have a good enough chance to escape aging velocity, or whatever it's called.
    Also, you can cure a lot of the illnesses and diseases you would likely die from in old age.
Bit elderly people nowadays will likely dies before this is possible.

 

Not if they are put into cryopreservation



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I would recommend Cryonics Institute. Some life insurance policies will pay for it.






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