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I find it rather naive to believe that the rich will allow an expansion of the safety net.

 

Let's be honest, they have lots of money that they don't want to part with along with legions of slavering and idiotic devotees in the form of middle class an-caps and extremist Libertarians.


What difference does it make?


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But what if said libertarians lose their jobs to said machines?

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http://www.washingto...-social-fabric/

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But what if said libertarians lose their jobs to said machines?

 

They view themselves as temporarily embarrassed rich. They'll keep pushing the free market mantra until they, and the rest of the unemployed, starve to death.


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Liberals, anarchists, and what few Mekis there are amongst the upper class would never allow it. The starving part.

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And this will help facilitate it even faster
 
http://www.bbc.com/n...siness-30339438
 

US fast food worker protests expanded to 190 cities on Thursday as the movement to raise the minimum wage in the US to $15 (£9.57) an hour reached a two-year anniversary.


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As a scientist, I demand that my salary be doubled.


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Not before teachers get their salaries quadrupled.


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I tried to consolidate all this information in one place, but it looks like yuli found more stuff I didn't see!

Report Suggests Nearly Half of U.S. Jobs Are Vulnerable to Computerization | MIT Technology Review

A recent report (which is not online, but summarized here ) from the Oxford Martin School’s Programme on the Impacts of Future Technology attempts to quantify the extent of that threat. It concludes that 45 percent of American jobs are at high risk of being taken by computers within the next two decades.
The authors believe this takeover will happen in two stages. First, computers will start replacing people in especially vulnerable fields like transportation/logistics, production labor, and administrative support. Jobs in services, sales, and construction may also be lost in this first stage. Then, the rate of replacement will slow down due to bottlenecks in harder-to-automate fields such engineering. This “technological plateau” will be followed by a second wave of computerization, dependent upon the development of good artificial intelligence. This could next put jobs in management, science and engineering, and the arts at risk.

Or maybe 1 in 3 jobs by 2025?

http://www.computerw...ts-by-2025.html

<-- TL:DR? Just watch this

bill gates thinks so too:

Bill Gates: Bots Are Taking Away Jobs - Business Insider

chart-of-the-day-robots-taking-jobs.jpg

and larry page:

Larry Page's Plan For People Whose Jobs Are Replaced By Tech: Work Less - Forbes

Robot bartenders:

Robot bartenders? This new cruise ship has them

https://www.kickstar...nt-robotic-bart

Germany builds smart factories:

Germany Bets on ‘Smart Factories’ to Keep Its Manufacturing Edge - WSJ - WSJ

http://rt.com/busine...mart-factories/

Human robot collaboration at factories:

http://www.technolog...-manufacturing/



Google built a neural turing machine that can "program itself": (having trouble substantiating claim in quotes so it may be media hyperbole)

https://www.tumblr.c...turing machines

http://www.technolog...turing-machine/

Orchard Supply Hardware robot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp9176vm7Co

automation at mcdonald's and panera bread:

http://money.cnn.com...ast-food-robot/

Automation arrives at restaurants (but don’t blame rising minimum wages) | Computerworld

http://www.foxnews.c...ers-robots-2016

amelia the artificial intelligence:

https://uk.finance.y...-090000370.html

peterbilt has an autonomous truck:

PETERBILT SHOWCASES AUTONOMOUS ASSIST DRIVING TECHNOLOGY

architects are racing to build 3d printed houses:

3D Printed Houses Are Here - Business Insider

for the poor too:

3D Printer Builds Homes From Mud In Impoverished Areas | IFLScience

farm robot detects pests and picks weeds:

Solar-Powered Robot Farmers Are Almost Ready to Start Working the Land | Motherboard

farm drones:

Cheap Drones Give Farmers a New Way to Improve Crop Yields | MIT Technology Review

they can even 3d print your crops and email you when they're done:

FarmBot Will 3D Print Your Crops and Email You When It Harvests Them | Motherboard

IBM's watson artificial intelligence:

IBM’s Watson Groomed as C-Suite Advisor | MIT Technology Review

Will IBM’s Watson Replace Sales Associates?: Video - Bloomberg

amazon's delivery drones:

Amazon looks to gain liftoff for drone delivery testing

they might even help you in your old age:

iRobot and Others Look Ahead to Robotic Elder Care | MIT Technology Review

kiosks for chili's and applebee's:

Tablets Are Making Waiters Obsolete - Business Insider

outsourcing has become too expensive so now automation has taken over:

http://motherboard.v...being-automated

and google's self driving cars:

Google's self-driving cars and others get permits to drive in California | The Verge

robots clean solar panels:

Robot with brush, water, wiper tackles solar panel cleaning

3d printed hydroponics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZZt5E68m-c&feature=share

drone provide internet:

SkyOrbiter UAVs will fly for years at a time and provide global internet access

drones monitor behavior of whales:

Drones used to monitor behaviour of killer whales

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The Networked Economy promises to transform just about every aspect of how people live and work. | MIT Technology Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

So what do we do?
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Well first we need to get your posts more than 10 likes.

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Haha thank you. Is my style too abrasive?

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http://www.cam.ac.uk...h-for-new-drugs

another one to add to the list! Scientists are being automated! :D
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Well that's actually a good thing. Robot scientists > human scientists. Of course, robot scientists = transhuman scientists.


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http://www.cam.ac.uk...h-for-new-drugs

another one to add to the list! Scientists are being automated! :D

What do you mean great by that smiley?! When every other job is gone, science careers will be the only thing left with any meaning. And now they're taking that away!



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Well, the spiritualist career seems pretty dand—

 

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lol robot jesus


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http://truthdig.com/...rofits_20150203

It is what I have been trying to explain to you from the beginning Jakob, but your ego has been too much in the way to see it. You have a sense of arrogance and superiority which I am not sure what it is based on, but you seem to believe automation is only a problem for "those people" over there somewhere *makes shooing motion*. What you fail to realize is that YOU are those petty, stupid, lazy, "not innovative enough", poor suckers to some douchebag who is richer than you. This will help put white collar people in the same shoes as blue collar people and will allow them to work together for a common end of (hopefully) reforming society so it is better for everyone rather than 93% of new wealth generated going to Ebenezer Scrooge.

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http://truthdig.com/...rofits_20150203

It is what I have been trying to explain to you from the beginning Jakob, but your ego has been too much in the way to see it. You have a sense of arrogance and superiority which I am not sure what it is based on, but you seem to believe automation is only a problem for "those people" over their somewhere *makes shooing motion*. What you fail to realize is that YOU are those petty, stupid, lazy, "not innovative enough", poor suckers to some douchebag who is richer than you. This will help put white collar people in the same shoes as blue collar people and will allow them to work together for a common end of (hopefully) reforming society so it is better for everyone rather than 93% of new wealth generated going to Ebenezer Scrooge.

Jakob is anti-automation, right?


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Ironically the people who are fighting for $15/hr minimum wage are probably speeding that process up.  The moment robots and drone deliveries are practical and less expensive then a minimum wage worker (including having to pay for the worker's ObamaCare) there are going to be a few million new unemployed workers.

 

with unemployment that massive, who are they going to sell their books to? people cannot survive without food, but they can without books. low purchasing power equals low demand equals low sales equals low profit equals check mate?


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if it gets speed up change comes quicker


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