Unidentified/Phantom Drones & UAPs

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Balloon-Like Object Closed Down Moldova’s Airspace Next To Ukraine Today
by Thomas Newdick
February 14, 2023

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(The Drive) Moldova briefly closed down its airspace earlier today, following reports of what was described as a balloon-like object over the country, close to the border with Ukraine. The incident came less than 24 hours after Moldova accused the Kremlin of plotting to bring down its government and amid reports that Russia is making use of decoy balloons launched over Ukraine, to confuse its radars. At the same time, much of the North American news cycle, at least, is gripped by coverage of high-altitude surveillance balloons and other unidentified aerial objects.

Moldova’s civil aviation authority said that it took the decision to close the country’s airspace after receiving a report from the defense ministry that a small object had been seen over the north of the country. The object was described as being similar in appearance to a weather balloon and an unverified video shows what looks like a metallic, highly reflective object glinting in the sunlight.

“Given the weather conditions and the impossibility of observing and identifying the object and its flight path,” Moldovan airspace was closed, the civil aviation authority said in a statement. Once it was determined that no threat existed, the airspace was reopened after 1 hour and 22 minutes.

Moldova’s neighbor Romania also reported that it had detected a small weather balloon in its airspace today, and it scrambled two MiG-21 Lancer fighter jets (as seen at the top of this story) to investigate. The pilots were unable to confirm whether the object was still there. Moldova, unlike Romania, no longer operates any combat aircraft, with just a handful of transports and helicopters currently in use.
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Okay, so it's Putin this time.
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^^^Apparently.


I came here to post the article below from Vox. I think some of this was covered in the old forum as a lot of the history goes back that far. At any rate, it seems very familiar.


Everything We know About UFOs We Learned from Congress
by Li Zhou
February 14 , 2023

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(Vox) The mysterious downing of three unidentified flying objects over the weekend has renewed attention on an issue that Congress has become increasingly interested in over the last few years: the presence of UFOs, also known as unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs).

Since 2020, a growing chorus of both Democrats and Republicans have emphasized the need to study and track UAPs, which can include everything from drones to other unknown aerial items, as a potential national security threat. Those calls have only grown louder after the military shot down the latest objects, which were detected in US airspace after a Chinese surveillance balloon was identified in early February. At this point, the White House has said that it doesn’t believe the unidentified objects have extraterrestrial origins.

Lawmakers’ scrutiny of UAPs burst into public view in 2022. Last May, the House held the first hearing that it’s had in 50 years on the issue, featuring testimony from military officials who presented video and images that service members have captured of different aerial objects. Past reports of UAPs have included sightings of objects that have “unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities,” raising questions about whether they could have extraterrestrial ties, though officials say they haven’t found evidence of such connections.

Over time, Congress’s focus on UAPs has become more mainstream as lawmakers like former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid pushed to make it a priority. In 2007, Reid helped secure $22 million in funding for a Pentagon program to study UFOs and UAPs, dubbed the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.
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Biden: Those Three Aerial Objects We Shot Down Probably Aren’t Spy Balloons
by Arianna Coghill
February 16 , 2023

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(Mother Jones) President Biden on Thursday, in his most detailed remarks addressing the recent spate of aerial objects that were shot down over North American skies, said that there is no evidence tying the three unidentified objects to foreign surveillance programs. Officials, however, are still working on confirming the exact details of the objects and their provenance.

“The Intelligence agency’s current assessment is that these three objects were balloons tied to private companies, recreational groups, or research institutions,” Biden said in a brief televised address. The president also defended shooting down a suspected Chinese spy balloon earlier this month, a dramatic action that has since inflamed tensions between the two countries.

“We seek competition, not conflict with China. We’re not looking for a new Cold War,” Biden said. “But I make no apologies and we will compete.”
Since taking down the objects, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have demanded answers. But in recent days, there has been growing consensus that they were likely benign in origin, almost certainly not evidence of aliens, and perhaps even belonging to hobby groups simply enthusiastic for “pico balloons.”

“We acted out of an abundance of caution and with an opportunity that allowed us to take down these objects safely,” Biden said on Thursday.
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So the Chinese balloon was not a spy balloon? If that's what the article is saying, this is a huge L for the US govt
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firestar464 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:45 pm So the Chinese balloon was not a spy balloon? If that's what the article is saying, this is a huge L for the US govt
No. Biden is referring to three subsequent objects, not to the Chinese balloon. Here is a citation, this one from Courthouse News, that confirms my point:
WASHINGTON (CN) — One week after his administration announced it would explore retaliation avenues against Beijing for what it said was a surveillance balloon with proven ties to the Chinese military, President Joe Biden distinguished that event from the three subsequent objects shot down in recent days.
Source: https://www.courthousenews.com/aerial-o ... iden-says/

Thanks for the question to give me the opportunity to clarify.
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I do think that the probability of alien visitation is higher than most people give it credit for. It's a pet peeve of mine when people say that its "extremely unlikely" that aliens would visit Earth based on our understanding of technological lifeforms of which we have a sample size of one (ourselves). Our telescopes are not good enough to see another technological civilization that mirrors our own even in the closest star systems (until JWST anyways), so whether or not they're out there, we couldn't tell either way.

On the other hand, a civilization that evolved thousands of years before us (but more likely millions or even billions of years) within the Milky Way could be fully aware of the fact that there is life on Earth (from the atmospheric composition) and already sent probes here. These post-singularity devices would be equipped with ASI and seem godlike to us.. perhaps not all that different from the strange sightings reports that have happened in the last 70 years.
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https://www.livescience.com/alien-mothe ... l-suggests
Alien mothership lurking in our solar system could be watching us with tiny probes, Pentagon official suggests

A draft paper by a Harvard scientist and the head of the Pentagon’s UFO office has raised the idea an alien mothership could be in the solar system, sending out tiny probes dubbed "dandelion seeds" to explore the planets within.

Could an alien mothership be hovering around the solar system, sending out tiny probes to explore planets? According to a Harvard scientist and a Pentagon official, it’s possible.

In a draft paper, the pair said it is feasible an extraterrestrial spaceship could be in our galactic neighborhood, exploring the region by the means of “dandelion seeds” — small spacecraft that can gather and send back information, similar to the way humans send out spacecraft to explore planets.
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