Unidentified/Phantom Drones & UAPs

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NASA Announces the Team Who'll be Studying Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Data. It's a Pretty Impressive List
by Matt Williams
October 28, 2022

Introduction:
(Universe Today) In June, NASA announced that it had commissioned an independent study team to investigate unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) from a scientific perspective. Last week, NASA announced the members of the independent team that will study observed events in the sky that cannot be identified as aircraft or natural phenomena. These sixteen individuals, a collection of scientists and researchers from premier institutions across the U.S., will analyze all possible data sources that could help NASA and other agencies learn more about this phenomenon.

Until recently, the study of UAP was a matter of national security and air safety pursued exclusively by government and military agencies. However, since the Office of Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) released its report last year (aka. the UFO Report), it has become the subject of scientific research. However, scientists require access to extensive sets of data to verify and explain observed events. Therefore, the focus of the study is to inform NASA about possible data sources that could discern the nature of UAP.

The team began their work on Monday, October 24th, and will spend the next nine months laying the groundwork for future studies of UAPs by NASA and other organizations. This will consist of the team reviewing how data gathered by government, commercial, military, and other entities (which has since been declassified) can be analyzed to learn more about UAPs. This team will then prepare a series of recommendations for UAP data analysis to NASA and a full report of its findings for the public (to be released by mid-2023).

Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator of the Science Mission Directorate at NASA Headquarters, said in a recent NASA press statement:
  • “Exploring the unknown in space and the atmosphere is at the heart of who we are at NASA. Understanding the data we have surrounding unidentified aerial phenomena is critical to helping us draw scientific conclusions about what is happening in our skies. Data is the language of scientists and makes the unexplainable, explainable.”


The article goes on to name individual members of the team.

Read more here: https://www.universetoday.com/158358/n ... ive-list/

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And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future
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The world of UAP news is a little bit spicy, as usual. Did you all know that last years NDAA mandated by law that the ODNI must deliver a report to congress summarizing their yearly analysis of UAP sightings? That report was due on October 31st, but was never delivered. The report is now 30 days late! :lol:

I don't know what to think but it certainly has dumped fuel on the fire for all kinds of conspiracy theories.
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Aliens observing us or otherwise visiting the planet is something that could turn out to be true.

However, any conspiracy that aliens have made contact or vice versa with our governments are completely false. Any species advanced enough to make it to Earth with such advanced aircraft or AI controlled drones wouldn't tolerate the culture of our governments at all. There'd be nothing to gain for them in terms of cultural studies by only talking to world governments and world governments wouldn't be cooperative with them either. Making contact at at any moderate scale would have an incredible effect on our species regardless of what humans are contacted. It follows that any contact would be public, notorious, and prioritize equal interaction with any given human on purpose because otherwise any data collected would be of low quality (due to unrepresentative samples) and still violate any prime directive if they have one.

Contact at a small scale with a few individual humans who are then trusted with secrecy would still yield more representative results of the human condition if Alien researchers took interest in average humans not our abstracted institutions.

This all only applies to advanced species though. If a small primitive alien seedship or drone appeared in our orbit and landed somewhere (or were retrieved by our governments) it is possible that our governments would keep the entire ordeal secret on purpose. Aliens at comparable levels of advancement to ourselves who for whatever reason have the drive to build interstellar ships would be vulnerable to our governments overpowering them, especially if they didn't travel with weapons for some reason or another and didn't expect to find anyone here on Earth to begin with.
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Some alien empires might be altruistic, but then again, they'd rather just talk directly to your average person as opposed to our institutions. There may be species that got here by accident or did not expect anyone here, who would definitely want to hide (similar to what was already said above). The only reason I can think of why they would be advanced and sneaky about it is that they do not have good intentions.
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erowind wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:42 am Aliens observing us or otherwise visiting the planet is something that could turn out to be true.

However, any conspiracy that aliens have made contact or vice versa with our governments are completely false. Any species advanced enough to make it to Earth with such advanced aircraft or AI controlled drones wouldn't tolerate the culture of our governments at all. There'd be nothing to gain for them in terms of cultural studies by only talking to world governments and world governments wouldn't be cooperative with them either. Making contact at at any moderate scale would have an incredible effect on our species regardless of what humans are contacted. It follows that any contact would be public, notorious, and prioritize equal interaction with any given human on purpose because otherwise any data collected would be of low quality (due to unrepresentative samples) and still violate any prime directive if they have one.

Well, that's the optimistic view. I'm not saying I believe in said conspiracies, but we really don't know what the nature of an actual spacefaring civilization will be like until we actually make contact with one. It's entirely possible that most spacefaring civilizations are post singularity machine ones, considering we are advancing that field faster than space travel, it may be a necessity of evolution before we reach that point.

Depending on just how advanced they would be, it's a possibility they simply wouldn't care about us at all. Imagine if they've already observed dozens or even hundreds of primitive civilizations and governments, we'd just be another drop in the vast ocean.

Assuming that there is anything to this UAP phenomenon, and it all isn't just the U.S. being coy about their drone programs or unrevealed inventory, I'd agree that it's most likely scientific drones sent to observe a primitive species, in the same way we observe animals right now.

firestar464 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:35 pm . The only reason I can think of why they would be advanced and sneaky about it is that they do not have good intentions.
Starfleet from Star Trek is advanced and sneaky because of their prime directive, which prevents interference in primitive civilizations so as to not adversely affect their natural evolution. If you're that advanced or even more so, then what purpose would it serve to make contact with a less advanced species? I really don't think we can judge any interstellar type of civilization with human eyes or perspective.
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Yuli Ban wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:50 am What’s Inside the Pentagon’s Long-Awaited UFO Report
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Of the 144 reports, the task force could only determine an explanation for one (a deflated balloon). The rest remain unexplained.
I am not saying that balloons explain all the sightings, or even a majority. Still...
WASHINGTON (Courthouse News) — A U.S. military fighter jet shot down an object flying over Alaska, national security officials announced Friday afternoon, emphasizing that the action was taken out of an abundance of caution and to safeguard against interference with civilian flights.

John Kirby, a spokesman for the White House National Security Council, noted at a press conference that there is no conclusion yet as to what the object is, who it belongs to, or what it was doing — only that it had been tracked for the last 24 hours hovering 40,000 feet above Alaska.

Just 24 hours earlier, the State Department released its preliminary findings about the giant Chinese surveillance balloon that another U.S. military jet had shot down off the coast of North Carolina after a weeklong cross-country flight.

Kirby noted that the object over Alaska “was much, much smaller than the spy balloon we took down last Saturday,” estimating the size of the latest object as comparable to that of a small car. He said last week's balloon that has been traced to the Chinese military meanwhile was about “two or three bus sizes."

No pilot was manning the device Friday, Kirby said, adding that “it did not appear to have the maneuverable capability that the other one did; it was at the mercy of the wind.
Source: https://www.courthousenews.com/days-aft ... er-alaska/

caltrek's comment: Most likely, balloons cannot be the explanation for objects that report flight characteristics that greatly exceed that of a balloon. Although optical illusions created in part by balloons could even be a factor.
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https://apnews.com/article/united-state ... b40ce1cb5a

Aaaaaand another one...what is happening?
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