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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... it-did-it/

Here in Denmark it's going surprisingly well. Yesterday when shopping in Lidl, I was very close to some old lady when I had to dispose off a plastic glove. She didn't react. Nobody uses face masks anymore. There's almost no Covid circulating in the country. There are only 17 persons in intensive care for Covid in the whole country.
Can it last? Who knows.
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I dunno, this feels premature.
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Hmmm
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I dunno, this feels premature.
Norway and Denmark are very similar: The vaccination rate in Norway is also high, and they have low number of Covid positives.
Norway has 95 patients with Covid in hospitals, Denmark 85.

Now, as temperatures drop and people stay more inside, one should expect the numbers to go up. Also there's RS virus hitting kids at the moment, and possibly a hard Influenza season coming.

Restrictions might well come later, but right now everything is awesome.
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Half of Unvaccinated Workers Say They’d rather Quit Than Get a Shot – but Real-world Data Suggest Few are Following Through

by Jack J. Berry, Ann Christiano, and Annie Neimand

https://theconversation.com/half-of-unv ... ugh-168447

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(The Conversation) Are workplace vaccine mandates prompting some employees to quit rather than get a shot?

A hospital in Lowville, New York, for example, had to shut down its maternity ward when dozens of staffers left their jobs rather than get vaccinated. At least 125 employees at Indiana University Health resigned after refusing to take the vaccine.

And several surveys have shown that as many as half of unvaccinated workers insist they would leave their jobs if forced to get the shot, which has raised alarms among some that more mandates could lead to an exodus of workers in many industries.

But how many will actually follow through?

Strong words

In June 2021, we conducted a nationwide survey, funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, that gave us a sample of 1,036 people who mirrored the diverse makeup of the U.S. We plan to publish the survey in October.
caltrek's comment: This shows why mandates are needed. One argument goes that only voluntary measures should be employed. Fine - if they work. If you have a number objecting that does not allow for herd immunity, then voluntary vaccination will not work, at least not completely. If vaccination does not completely work, then new variants that are more vaccine resistant are liable to arise. As a matter of self-defense, we therefore need to have mandatory measures.

How to enforce? Well, if jobs involve contact with the public or with fellow workers, then vaccines can be mandated as a condition of employment. In addition, rising rates of infection among the unvaccinated as contrasted with declining rates among the vaccinated can serve as part of the enforcement mechanism.

Many will object that such measures are an unfair deprivation of freedom. Being deprived of your life and good health because you become infected is also a denial of freedom. So, as a matter of self-defense....
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Coronavirus Pandemic Update From Japan
September 26, 2021

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021 ... -2021.html

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(Kyodo News) Here are the latest COVID-19 updates from Japan and beyond:

As of 10 p.m., Sunday, Sept. 26
  • Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga on Saturday sounded optimistic about lifting Japan's state of emergency over the coronavirus pandemic when it expires at the end of this month, saying the COVID-19 situation in the country is improving.
As of 11 p.m., Saturday, Sept. 25
  • The health ministry has begun reviewing Japan's health care system in preparation for a possible sixth wave of coronavirus infections, following numerous cases of people dying at home during the previous resurgence.
  • Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga on Saturday hailed this summer's Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics as a success, saying in a speech at the U.N. General Assembly that the host country "achieved what we set out to do" despite the pressures of a public that was divided over holding the games during the pandemic.
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Amazon's Private MIQ (Managed Isolation and Quarantine) Pitch Shot Down by Government Last Year
by Jason Walls and Tom Dillane
September 26, 2021

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/ ... IEIOUSKAY/

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(New Zealand Herald) A pitch from Amazon to sidestep the usual MIQ process to get their Lord of the Rings production crew into New Zealand was shot down by the Government.

The multi-billion dollar company raised the idea of securing hotels, holiday homes and rental properties to be used for their own private managed isolation.

But that idea, which was mooted in August last year, was rejected by the Government.

A spokesman from the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MIBE) - which runs the MIQ system - said the Government told Amazon its focus was on using existing facilities, due to the need for wrap-around services required for MIQ.

The spokesman said this was never a "formal proposal" – rather just an idea Amazon executives raised with MBIE.
caltrek's comment: Hmmm...this story sounds like a clever way to promote a new movie...
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The coronavirus pandemic has become the deadliest disease outbreak in recent American history with tolls surpassing the estimated deaths of the 1918 flu. According to data from Johns Hopkins University, 681,253 individuals in the United States have died from Covid-19 infections, while over a century ago, the country lost an estimated 675,000 people during the 1918 influenza pandemic, reports Holly Yan for CNN.

Many health experts suspect that the Covid-19 pandemic’s high death tolls are a result of America’s insufficient response to control the pandemic early on—despite modern day scientific and medical advances—and consider the phenomenon a tragedy, reports Carla K. Johnson for the Associated Press. Currently, an average of 1,900 deaths are reported per day in the U.S. Experts suspect the recent surge is due in part to the persistence of the deadlier Delta variant, reports CNBC’s Berkeley Lovelace Jr.

“It’s generally known around the world that America didn’t do a very good job in the early stages of controlling the pandemic,” says David Morens, a medical historian at the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, to Helen Branswell for STAT News.
Per capita basis, not quite, but still the fact that the numbers are even remotely similar is tragically delicious. How did we get here?!

Remember that old thread on the old forum, back in January 2020 when we first started following this virus? Imagine this news back then!
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And this sounds nasty
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Remember that old thread on the old forum, back in January 2020 when we first started following this virus? Imagine this news back then!
Yes. I remember wondering why China seemed to be "overreacting" to the outbreak in Hunan. Then Starspawn posted a video loosely based on Wizard of Oz characters. The cowardly lion was running away from a monster with Alice and company behind him. Suddenly, an iron gate dropped between the cowardly lion and Dorothy, et al. Starspawn was making the point that what the Chinese were afraid of was exponential growth. It would seem that the fear of certain Chinese government officials was rational after all.
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