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Milan Reports 50% of Passengers on China Flights Have Covid
https://news.yahoo.com/milan-reports-50 ... 02106.html
(Bloomberg) -- Italian health authorities will begin testing all arrivals from China for Covid after almost half of the passengers on two flights to Milan were found to have the virus.
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U.S. will require airline passengers traveling from China to test negative for Covid
Source: CNBC
The Biden administration will require airline passengers traveling from China to test negative for Covid before entering the U.S., a federal health official said on Wednesday.

All travelers two years of age and older originating from China, Hong Kong or Macau will be required to get tested for Covid two days before their departure to the U.S., the health official said. The requirements, which apply regardless of nationality and vaccination status, starting Jan. 5.

The testing requirements come as China battles a major outbreak of the virus after easing its stringent zero-Covid policy in the wake of social unrest earlier this year.
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caltrek wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:55 pm
Xyls wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:38 pm
caltrek wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:54 pm

I doubt that "we" will do that. In any case, I don't think it should be a matter of "punishment." It may feel like "punishment" to the Chinese (and people wishing to fly to and from China) but it should be more a matter of health precaution. I would think that it would be hypocritical of the Chinese government to complain given their history of shut-downs and social isolation in dealing with COVID-19. Not to mention the somewhat different path they have chosen regarding vaccines.
Completely disagree with this approach. We already saw the "not being racist, not punishing the Chinese approach" at the start of COVID and look where that got us. Forever more if there is a new disease being reported in China, should be immediate travel restrictions as the country simply is not honest.
My point is that "immediate travel restrictions" should not be viewed as a matter of punishment. Rather, it should be more a matter of a health precaution.

Why "punish" the Chinese people for the dishonesty of their government?

Are they not already victims in that regard?
First of all, it is not about "punishing the Chinese people" it's about threat management. It is clear that there is a major threat from China regarding the evolution of the disease with the sheer volume of people being infected there at the moment.

It is also true that the Chinese government has a horrendously bad track record of being forthcoming with information about infectious diseases as we can see with SARS in 2003, COVID V.1 in 2020, and now this new wave of COVID. They aren't tracking information, they aren't being honest with information and they aren't doing their own due diligence in not causing collateral damage to other countries.

Other countries do not have a responsibility to consider the feelings of citizens of China if their own government won't, and especially not if doing so endangers the health and security of their own citizens. This nonsense attitude is a major contributor to why COVID turned into a pandemic in the first place. It's time to use effective disease management and restrict travel as much as possible until the situation subsides.
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China Covid: experts estimate 9,000 deaths a day as US says it may sample wastewater from planes

Fri 30 Dec 2022 03.04 GMT

The United States is considering sampling wastewater taken from international aircraft to track any emerging new Covid-19 variants as infections surge in China, as UK-based health experts estimate about 9,000 people a days are now dying of the disease in China.

The proposed of testing wastewater by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would provide a better solution to tracking the virus and slowing its entry into the US than new travel restrictions announced this week, three infectious disease experts said.

The US and a number of other countries have said travellers from China will require mandatory negative Covid tests.

Their comments came as UK-based health data firm Airfinity said about 9,000 people in China were probably dying each day from Covid, nearly doubling its estimate from a week ago.

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wjfox wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:56 am :shock:

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China Covid: experts estimate 9,000 deaths a day as US says it may sample wastewater from planes

Fri 30 Dec 2022 03.04 GMT

The United States is considering sampling wastewater taken from international aircraft to track any emerging new Covid-19 variants as infections surge in China, as UK-based health experts estimate about 9,000 people a days are now dying of the disease in China.

The proposed of testing wastewater by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would provide a better solution to tracking the virus and slowing its entry into the US than new travel restrictions announced this week, three infectious disease experts said.

The US and a number of other countries have said travellers from China will require mandatory negative Covid tests.

Their comments came as UK-based health data firm Airfinity said about 9,000 people in China were probably dying each day from Covid, nearly doubling its estimate from a week ago.

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Virologist Luis Enjuanes: ‘The situation in China is worrisome and will have a cascade effect on the rest of the world’

Dec 30, 2022 - 04:50 GMT

The Spanish researcher believes that the Asian country has made a mistake in going from a zero-Covid policy to a nearly unrestricted one, as its population has low vaccination coverage

Read more: https://english.elpais.com/internationa ... world.html
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UK to require COVID negative tests for arrivals from China
Source: Reuters
Dec 30 (Reuters) - The UK said on Friday that passengers arriving in Britain from China will require a negative COVID-19 test after a surge in infections in China.

Starting on Jan. 5, Chinese travellers will need to show a negative COVID-19 test taken no more than two days prior to departure, UK's Department of Health and Social Care said in a statement.

The move comes after doubts over the transparency of official data from Beijing raised concerns about a wave of infections. Airlines will be required to check all passengers from China for tests, and passengers will not be allowed to board a flight without providing evidence of a negative test result, it added.

The UK joins other countries, including the United States and India, to impose COVID-19 tests for travellers from China. France, South Korea and Spain have also done so. The Timesand The Telegraph on Friday reported that British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak had weighed in to take the step.
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-req ... 022-12-30/
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It’s really frustrating to me to watch most media outlets and people for that matter go from criticizing China’s “totalitarian” zero covid policy for being incongruent with global policy standards only to turn around and now criticize China for experiencing mass deaths now that the policy has been lifted.

It’s clear that these articles and comments are less about covid and more about ruthlessly criticizing literally anything the Chinese government does. If their policy were truly totalitarian for that matter than vaccine uptake wouldn’t have been so low. It seems people weren’t actually being held at gunpoint by cartoon character soldiers with vaccines in hand.

There’s plenty to criticize the Chinese government for, genocide, imperialism, lack of democracy, etc. But covid policy isn’t it.
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