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weatheriscool wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:46 am Brazil election goes to the wire after ill-tempered final TV debate
Source: The Guardian

The two political heavyweights vying to become Brazil’s next president have locked horns during the final television debate before a momentous election with profound implications for the Amazon rainforest, the global climate emergency and the future of one of the world’s largest democracies.

The former leftist president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva and the far-right incumbent Jair Bolsonaro faced off in Rio at the studios of Brazil’s biggest broadcaster, with eve of election polls giving Lula a slender but not unassailable lead.

During the tetchy encounter, Lula accused Bolsonaro of catastrophically mishandling a Covid outbreak that has killed nearly 700,000 Brazilians, arming organised crime by loosening gun laws, and trashing the Amazon and Brazil’s international reputation. “Brazil is more isolated than Cuba …. We have become a pariah,” the 77-year-old leftist said, castigating Bolsonaro’s “insane behaviour”.

Bolsonaro, who was visibly nervous and lost his footing on stage several times, repeatedly called Lula a liar and highlighted the corruption scandals that tarnished the 14 years in which the ex-president’s Workers’ party (PT) governed from 2003 to 2016. “Lula, you’re a crook,” Bolsonaro fumed. “Your government was a champion in corruption.”


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... -bolsonaro
Least one-sided media "news" post... it is so clear nowadays that it makes one wonder who owns most of the media and why do they want a socialist ruling and ruining yet another country in Latin America? 🤔

Here in Brazil the media and discourse comes with an extra sour taste: one can't speak bad facts about Lula in the media without having to pay a huge fine. Facts like:

- It was in the former government led by Lula that Brazil had the biggest embezzled corruption scandal of the world in monetary terms (billions stolen)
- Lula is friends and supports dictators and their policies that led to failed countries in Latam, like Cuba, Venezuela and most recently Argentina. They frequently sit together to discuss how to conspirate towards a more socialist latam.
- Lula's government plan literally states that they will "regulate the internet" and punish with the rule of law "fake news" (yes, my post is an immense fake news to them and therefore my place is in jail)
- Maybe foreigners aren't aware but Lula is a condemned criminal and actually spent years in jail recently. There is mountains of evidence of corruption for his prison. The reason he isn't there anymore is because the judicial higher sphere (the federal court of Brazil), who has appointed judges that get a seat for life, is filled to the brink with people that were appointed either by him (2002-2008) or by his puppet Dilma (2008-2014) while they were ruling the country. These judges initially received his case and condemned him after it had already passed two recourses and two different courts. It was impossible to deny the evidence. They later decided on their own to free him due to a technically in the procedure (basically that the judgment hadn't started in the correct judicial place, it started in Curitiba but should've started in Brasilia). What this means is that even if Lula was judged and condemned in three different instances in three different courts and different judges, he's still going to go free. He wasn't declared innocent, his case was nullified.
- anyone in media can't explain the above and say that he was "unjailed" without having to pay a fine; technically no one can even say these things over the internet or in person, risking paying the same fines or going to jail if one doesn't, but they aren't chasing the small ones over the internet yet.

Anyway, I am done with authoritarian commies ruling this country and collapsing yet another economy here in Latam; if he gets elected I am bailing out of this hell forsaken place. This is what is going to happen with quite a few companies actually, including big ones, as they have already promised they're done with this mess as well. It simply isn't worth it to be a producer if your ruler is a criminal that promises to take away what you're generating.

This country is going to go full Argentina/Venezuela 2.0 with people having to eat literally trash or even doggos (like they already do in those two countries) and westerners will cheer and clap along the whole process, as they have done for the two above in the past.
And, as always, bye bye.
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Would you look at the time! 8am down here and right when the elections are starting we had a few high profile right-wing politicians banned from Twitter :lol:
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Bolsonaro: 5,028,892 (52.39%)
Lula: 4,569,286 (47.61%)
8.06% REPORTING
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Bolsonaro: 6,221,621 (52.05%)
Lula: 5,732,531 (47.95%)
10.09% REPORTING
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Bolsonaro: 14,309,202 (51.30%)
Lula: 13,581,265 (48.70%)
23.75% REPORTING
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Bolsonaro: 17,577,548 (51.06%)
Lula: 16,846,028 (48.94%)
29.33% REPORTING
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Bolsonaro: 20,712,132 (50.84%)
Lula: 20,024,346 (49.16%)
34.69% REPORTING
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https://especiaisg1.globo/politica/elei ... e/2-turno/

53.06% counted

JAIR BOLSONARO
PL
50.23%
31,436,193

LULA
PT
49.77%
31,144,580
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Bolsonaro: 34,075,731 (50.15%)
Lula: 33,875,731 (49.85%)
57.57% REPORTING
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Bolsonaro: 36,148,921 (50.10%)
Lula: 36,008,584 (49.90%)
61.06% REPORTING
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:lol: :lol:
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100% counted


LULA
50.90%
60,345,999 votes

JAIR BOLSONARO
49.10%
58,206,354 votes


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Another round of politicians and high-profile right-wing people removed from social networks today, specially twitter and instagram. It's usually the vocal opposition, people like this guy who had to flee the country a few years ago as they wanted him to be put in jail for spreading "fake news"'; another fun fact from him: the brazilian federal count tried to put him on a wanted level @ the interpol. Interpol and the USA have denied the accusations and the extradition as they were obviously ideological in nature.

Anyway, today my city had a protest crushed by the federal police with gas bombs and rubber bullets. No protesting for you, said the federal court (STF)... they threatened huge daily fines for the federal police officers if they didn't intervene to crush protest all over the country.

With that, Brazil joins the celebration of democracy together with Latam countries like Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela and Cuba.
It's over. Another decade bites the dust for the entire continent (some countries are already ahead in their decay, like Venezuela and Argentina [cuba doens't count as they are a sh*thole since the 60s]). Might as well burn the whole thing down when they leave office (if). :roll:

Well, at least we are safe from mean tweets now.

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Cherry on top are the local dictators cheering for "democracy man" (like my previous post but also this one):

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Brazil's Bolsonaro signals cooperation with transfer of power, but does not concede election defeat
Source: CNN
Brazil’s President Jair Bolsonaro on Tuesday said he would “follow all the orders and prescriptions of the constitution” during a short and ambiguous speech at the presidential palace in Brasilia, after days of silence following his election loss to the leftist former leader Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.

He did not explicitly concede defeat, though the event appeared to signal his intention to cooperate with the transfer of power. Speaking after the President, his chief of staff Ciro Nogueira said that he would work with the new government and is waiting for Lula da Silva’s transition team to begin the handover.

“Contrary to what my opponents say I always played within the limits of our constitution,” Bolsonaro said, without congratulating Lula da Silva, who won with 50.9% of the vote, while Bolsonaro gained 49.1%.

The President-elect received the most votes in Brazilian history – more than 60 million votes, breaking his own record from 2006 by almost two million votes, according to the election authority’s final tally.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/01/americas ... index.html
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Brazil Election: Scientists Cheer Lula Victory Over Bolsonaro
by Jeff Tollefson
October 31, 2022

Introduction:
(Nature) Scientists breathed a sigh of relief on Sunday as Brazil narrowly elected Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva as president, ousting its current leader, who they say disregarded science, weakened environmental policies and disparaged minorities.

Overcoming a 19-month stint in prison on corruption charges that were tossed out in 2021, Lula received nearly 51% of the vote in a run-off election against the right-wing incumbent Jair Bolsonaro. Lula, a leftist labour leader and former president, will take office in January.

“Today is a very hopeful day here in Brazil,” says Elisa Orth, a chemist at the Federal University of Paraná in Curitiba. Orth has watched students walk away from science over the past several years, while Bolsonaro slashed research funding and attacked scientists, academics and others. With Lula, Orth says, “we voted for somebody who believes in science, who believes in education”.

Scientists and academics had largely lined up in favour of Lula, who garnered international fame during his first two terms in office, from 2003 to 2010, for promoting sustainable development, lifting millions out of poverty and sharply reducing deforestation in the Amazon. The Workers’ Party that he leads has invested heavily in science, innovation and education.

By contrast, during his presidency, Bolsonaro cut science budgets, curbed the enforcement of environmental policies and promoted misinformation about COVID-19 and vaccines during the pandemic, which killed more than 685,000 people in Brazil.
Read more here: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03523-9
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