2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

User avatar
caltrek
Posts: 9283
Joined: Mon May 17, 2021 1:17 pm

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by caltrek »

Colorado kicks Trump off the ballot
Elie Mystal writing in The Nation had a recent analysis/opinion piece on this. It includes a citation of section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
From the article itself:
Donald Trump engaged in insurrection. That’s not me saying it, or Jack Smith saying it; that’s what the first court to hear this case, the Colorado state court, ruled at trial a few weeks ago. The trial court found that Trump engaged in insurrection…

If the US Supreme Court intervenes and overrules Colorado, not only will it be going against the plain text of the 14th Amendment; it will also be trampling over Colorado’s right to interpret its own state laws. As you may have heard, “states’ rights” is kind of a big thing in conservative circles. Remember, it’s conservatives who think states have the right to gerrymander away the voting power of racial minorities because of “states’ rights.” They think the states can limit voting hours and deny early voting because of “states’ rights.” In 2013, in Shelby County v. Holder, Chief Justice John Roberts ruled that the federal government can’t even use the 15th Amendment and the Voting Rights Act to stop the Confederate states from changing their voting laws back to Jim Crow procedures meant to disadvantage Black voters… because of “states’ rights.”

There are many ways the conservatives can wriggle out of their own ideology now that their so-called logic no longer helps them. Perhaps they’ll read “convicted” of insurrection into the amendment, even though that word doesn’t exist in the text. Perhaps they’ll say that the case is not “ripe”—which in legalese means that the case is not ready for the court to make a ruling on—because it deals only with the primary ballots and not the general election ballots. Perhaps they’ll say we’re “too close” to an election to follow the rules (they’ve done that before).


Trump’s lawyer argued, and the Supreme Court could agree, that Section 3 requires a specific act of Congress before it can be enforced. That might be a cute way for the court to stand by their man and let Trump get back on the ballot, while pretending that it’s all Congress’s fault.

There is probably a universe out there where Trump is kicked off the ballot; it’s just unlikely that we’re lucky enough to live in that one.


Source (this link may not work for those who do not subscribe to The Nation. The cited article is dated December 20, 2023): https://www.thenation.com/article/pol ... rm=weekly
Don't mourn, organize.

-Joe Hill
weatheriscool
Posts: 24508
Joined: Sun May 16, 2021 6:16 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by weatheriscool »


Echelon: Biden +57, Trump +60

Biden 65%
Williamson 8%
Phillips 2%

Trump 70%
Haley 10%
DeSantis 9%
Ramaswamy 5%
Christie 1%

https://echelonin.wpenginepowered.com/w ... TERNAL.pdf
weatheriscool
Posts: 24508
Joined: Sun May 16, 2021 6:16 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by weatheriscool »

DeSantis advisor equivalents campaign to hospice care - NY Times


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/24/us/p ... ticleShare
weatheriscool
Posts: 24508
Joined: Sun May 16, 2021 6:16 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by weatheriscool »

Democratic group makes a $5.9 million bet on flipping George Santos' House seat

Source: NBC News

Dec. 27, 2023, 9:00 AM EST


The Democratic-aligned House Majority PAC is putting down $5.2 million in initial reservations for TV and digital ads to try to win the House special election to replace the expelled Rep. George Santos, R-N.Y., the group told NBC News.

The group said it will spend $3.7 million on TV and $1.5 million on digital platforms, along with $700,000 on mail ads, in the weeks ahead of the Feb. 13 contest in New York’s 3rd Congressional District. The election pits Democrat Tom Suozzi, a former congressman eying a comeback, against Republican nominee Mazi Melesa Pilip, a Nassau County legislator.

The competitive district, which includes parts of Long Island and Queens, voted for President Joe Biden in 2020 before it elected Santos in 2022. But his subsequently unearthed biographical fabrications and sweeping federal indictment prompted the House to expel him on Dec. 1. It is the type of district that will be heavily contested next November, and it could determine which party wins the chamber, which Republicans now narrowly control.

The contest “represents the first step to Democrats taking back the House in 2024,” House Majority PAC President Mike Smith said in response to written questions. “A resurgence in New York represents House Democrats’ best path to the majority.”
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... rcna131042
User avatar
wjfox
Site Admin
Posts: 13588
Joined: Sat May 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Essex, UK
Contact:

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by wjfox »

weatheriscool
Posts: 24508
Joined: Sun May 16, 2021 6:16 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by weatheriscool »

Louisiana woman files suit to remove Trump from Louisiana ballot
https://www.the-independent.com/news/wo ... 70465.html
Louisiana has joined a lengthy list of states where voters are seeking to disqualify Donald Trump from primary ballots after a woman filed a lawsuit claiming he was ineligible from office for inciting the January 6 riots.

Ashley Reeb, from Chalmette, filed the action on 22 December in East Baton Rouge Parish, asking a judge to block the Republican frontrunner from March’s primary for his efforts to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after his 2020 election loss.

“Both Trump’s actions (engaging in insurrection) as well as his inaction (giving aid and comfort to insurrectionists) on [6 January 2021], disqualify him from holding any office of/under the United States,” Ms Reeb stated in the suit.

Similar challenges have been filed in over a dozen states by individuals and left-wing activist groups alleging that Mr Trump’s actions leading up to the January 6 attack on the Capitol violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
User avatar
wjfox
Site Admin
Posts: 13588
Joined: Sat May 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Essex, UK
Contact:

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by wjfox »

User avatar
wjfox
Site Admin
Posts: 13588
Joined: Sat May 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Essex, UK
Contact:

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by wjfox »

weatheriscool wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:47 am
What a disgusting, orange, flabby, sweaty face. Trump's physical appearance is as bad as his political beliefs. And he smells too! (apparently) *gags*
weatheriscool
Posts: 24508
Joined: Sun May 16, 2021 6:16 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by weatheriscool »


Morning Consult: Trump +55

Trump: 66%
DeSantis: 11%
Haley: 11%
Ramaswamy: 6%
Christie: 4%
Hutchinson: 1%

https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers ... ganic_post
spryfusion
Posts: 876
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:29 am

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by spryfusion »

.
Last edited by spryfusion on Tue May 05, 2026 7:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
weatheriscool
Posts: 24508
Joined: Sun May 16, 2021 6:16 pm
Contact:

Re: 2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

Post by weatheriscool »


What a load of fucking shit! That piece of shit will probably lose more of there vote this election compared to 2020...
Post Reply