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House votes 234-193 to give final approval to bipartisan compromise gun bill spurred by Texas and N.
Source: New York Daily News

N.Y. mass shootings
The House of Representatives voted 234-193 to give final approval to a compromise gun bill that won some bipartisan support after last month’s bloody massacres in a Buffalo, New York supermarket and a Texas elementary school in Uvalde.

In a mostly party-line vote, the Democratic-led House quickly passed the bill that modestly tightens some restrictions after the Senate voted overwhelmingly to approve it over the vehement objections of right-wing gun-rights advocates.

Only 14 Republicans joined all Democrats in voted for the bill including Rep. Chris Jacobs (R-N.Y.), the Buffalo-area lawmaker who decided not to run for reelection after his support for modest gun restrictions sparked an angry GOP backlash.

“Every day, gun violence steals lives and scars communities — and this crisis demands urgent action,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said.
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This will be found as unconstitutional. The government shall not infringe!!
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weatheriscool wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:51 pm
MURDER COMES WITH THE CHARGE OF MURDER! Who wouldn't of guessed it! ;)
Who is being murdered? What are their names? A foetus isn't a person.
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weatheriscool wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:53 pm
This will be found as unconstitutional. The government shall not infringe!!
What harm will this bill cause you personally? Please explain, specifically.
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wjfox wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:24 pm
weatheriscool wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:53 pm
This will be found as unconstitutional. The government shall not infringe!!
What harm will this bill cause you personally? Please explain, specifically.
While I have nothing against this bill myself, to be fair to weather, it isn't about whether it causes anyone harm personally, but whether or not it infringes on constitutional freedom.
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weatheriscool wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:53 pm House votes 234-193 to give final approval to bipartisan compromise gun bill spurred by Texas and N.
Source: New York Daily News

N.Y. mass shootings
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Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAYPIsB

This will be found as unconstitutional. The government shall not infringe!!
Who knows what a right-wing Supreme Court will decide. The operative Amendment reads:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
  • So, the whole clause is dependent upon the existence of a "well regulated militia." Well regulated definitely meaning accountability. Accountability implies some government infringement, so the whole Amendment is self-contradictory
  • "Arms" meant muskets. At the time it did not mean assault rifles because such sophisticated weapons did not exist. Today, the word "arms" also include portable nuclear explosive devices. Do you think we should allow freedom of possession of such weapons?
  • Conservative justices have, in my mind quite arbitrarily, decided that since "well-regulated militias" no longer exist, that phrase is simply rendered inoperative. Yet, if that clause is inoperative, then why shouldn't the whole Amendment also thus be read as being inoperative?
  • As conservative Republican Pat Buchanan once observed, the Constitution says what the Supreme Court wants it to say. Should common sense thus be banned from a reading of that Amendment?
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weatheriscool wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:51 pm Wisconsin doctors halt abortions following court ruling
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MURDER COMES WITH THE CHARGE OF MURDER! Who wouldn't of guessed it! ;)
It is only "murder" if a human life is defined as starting at the moment of conception. Is it not more reasonable to refer to a standard such as "viability outside of the womb" or "upon reaching a state of self-awareness." One could easily go in the opposite direction and conclude that unfertilized eggs constitute human beings. Meaning that as technology becomes more advanced, it would be defined as "murder" for a woman to refuse to surrender her unfertilized eggs. Just how ridiculous do you believe we should get?
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caltrek wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:59 pm
weatheriscool wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:51 pm Wisconsin doctors halt abortions following court ruling
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Read more: https://apnews.com/article/abortion-us- ... 0f1faff587

MURDER COMES WITH THE CHARGE OF MURDER! Who wouldn't of guessed it! ;)
It is only "murder" if a human life is defined as starting at the moment of conception. Is it not more reasonable to refer to a standard such as "viability outside of the womb" or "upon reaching a state of self-awareness." One could easily go in the opposite direction and conclude that unfertilized eggs constitute human beings. Meaning that as technology becomes more advanced, it would be defined as "murder" for a woman to refuse to surrender her unfertilized eggs. Just how ridiculous do you believe we should get?
I am mostly talking about after 20 weeks past conception. Once the baby starts feeling....I think the concept of later term abortion is extremely evil. I'd be ok with it before this point. The left is giving a hell of a lot of fire power to the right by allowing it up to literal birth.
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NJ ATTORNEY GENERAL
ISSUES DIRECTIVE REQUIRING
CARRY PERMIT APPLICATIONS
TO BE PROCESSED WITHOUT
"JUSTIFIABLE NEED"
June 24, 2022. At the close of business today, and in light of the Bruen decision, the New Jersey Attorney General issued a directive to law enforcement agencies and prosecutors mandating that NJ carry permit applications now be processed WITHOUT an applicant having to prove "justifiable need."

CLICK HERE to see a copy of the directive.

The effect of this directive is to remove any doubt that the Bruen decision applies in New Jersey, and that someone applying for a concealed carry permit in the Garden State need only satisfy typical requirements, such as:
https://www.anjrpc.org/page/NJDropsJustifiableNeed
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weatheriscool wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:43 am
caltrek wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:59 pm
weatheriscool wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:51 pm Wisconsin doctors halt abortions following court ruling
Source: AP

By SCOTT BAUER


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/abortion-us- ... 0f1faff587

MURDER COMES WITH THE CHARGE OF MURDER! Who wouldn't of guessed it! ;)
It is only "murder" if a human life is defined as starting at the moment of conception. Is it not more reasonable to refer to a standard such as "viability outside of the womb" or "upon reaching a state of self-awareness." One could easily go in the opposite direction and conclude that unfertilized eggs constitute human beings. Meaning that as technology becomes more advanced, it would be defined as "murder" for a woman to refuse to surrender her unfertilized eggs. Just how ridiculous do you believe we should get?
I am mostly talking about after 20 weeks past conception. Once the baby starts feeling....I think the concept of later term abortion is extremely evil. I'd be ok with it before this point. The left is giving a hell of a lot of fire power to the right by allowing it up to literal birth.
Except the left don't allow it up to literal birth. Like nowhere can you go get an abortion a day before your due date, that's not a thing that's ever been legal in any state, and no credible liberal politician has ever argued for it.
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Roe vs Wade: Protests sweep the US after abortion rights overturned
Saturday 25 June 2022

Abortion rights advocates staged protests across the US on Friday after the Supreme Court scrapped the constitutional right to abortion.
Protests were held in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco as well as in Chicago, Seattle and other cities. In New York and Los Angeles, people chanted: "Rise up for abortion rights."

It comes after the Republican-controlled court ended constitutional protections for abortion that have been in place for nearly 50 years by deciding to overturn the landmark Roe vs Wade ruling.

It is expected to lead to abortion bans in roughly half of US states.

In Phoenix, police reportedly fired tear gas from the windows of the Arizona Capitol building to disperse hundreds of people demonstrating outside, as lawmakers briefly huddled in a basement.

The lawmakers were working to complete their 2022 session as thousands of protesters gathered on the Capitol grounds in Phoenix on Friday night.
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-06-24/pro ... ion-rights
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