2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

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Liz Cheney Plans to Go National
by Mike Allen
August 17, 2022
(Axios) Allies of Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) tell Axios that after last night's primary loss, they expect her to start a super PAC — which would attract lots of wealthy, anti-Trump Republican donors.

Why it matters: Forming a national group would signal a run in the '24 GOP primaries, giving a real voice to anti-Trump Republicans.

Driving the news: It sure looked like a presidential-campaign stage when Cheney — vice chair of the House Jan. 6 committee — conceded Wednesday night in Jackson, Wyo. She immediately teased a '24 presidential run.
  • "[O]ur work is far from over," she began.
  • "The great and original champion of our party, Abraham Lincoln, was defeated in elections for the Senate and the House before he won the most important election of all," she added.
  • "Lincoln ultimately prevailed, he saved our Union and he defined our obligation as Americans for all of history."
https://www.axios.com/2022/08/17/liz-ch ... op-primary
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She only got 29% in the primary. It is extremely unlikely that she has much of a chance to win the presidential primary....
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2024 Ohio General Election Poll:

Trump 53% (+14)
Biden 39%

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2024 Michigan General Election Poll:

Biden 41%
Trump 41%

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2024 National General Election Poll:

Donald Trump 42% (+3)
Joe Biden 39%
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Donald Trump 43% (+6)
Kamala Harris 37%

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weatheriscool wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:26 pm She only got 29% in the primary. It is extremely unlikely that she has much of a chance to win the presidential primary....
Oh, I totally agree that Liz Cheney has little to no chance of actually winning the Republican party nomination. She is that party's last best hope, but an overwhelming majority of Republicans just don't see it that way. At least not in public. Still, it may be a worthy fight. Robert Reich had an interesting comment on Liz Cheney.

Liz Cheney and the Future of the Republican Party
by Robert Reich
August 17, 2022

Extract (after an introduction which largely duplicates what has already been covered in this thread):
I expect that Cheney will run for the Republican nomination for president in 2024. If Trump is still alive and coherent, and most Republican voters are still deluded by him, she will lose. I hope she then runs as a third-party candidate for a new Republican Party that represents the best values of the old GOP — one that I recall from when Dwight Eisenhower was president.

My father was a Republican. So was my grandfather. The first administration I joined in Washington was Gerald Ford’s. One of my dearest friends is Alan Simpson, former senator from Wyoming.

But since Ronald Reagan became president, I’ve watched the Republican Party turn from a governing institution into a crazed cult. It is not just bent on returning America to what it was before the New Deal. It is now intent on turning America into an authoritarian nation. It represents a clear and present danger to the future of the United States and the world.

I have disagreed with Liz Cheney on almost all the substantive issues she has voted on while in Congress. But on the transcendent issue of democracy — the foundation on which all other issues depends — I salute her leadership, her dedication, and her commitment. And I grieve for the Republican Party that has lost her and lost what’s left of its moral authority.

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For those of you who may be interested, here’s what Cheney had to say (in her concession speech) last night in full...(see linked article acces to which is provided below):
Read more here: https://robertreich.substack.com/p/liz- ... re-of-the
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Liz Cheney Presidential Run Could 'Could Single-handedly Swing the Election' to Donald Trump
by Meaghan Ellis
August 22, 2022

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(Alternet) Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) has vowed to do “whatever it takes to ensure Donald Trump is never again anywhere near the Oval Office.” That, apparently, includes running for president in 2024.

“It is something that I am thinking about,” Cheney said during an appearance on NBC News last week.

However, a new poll suggests her potential presidential run could be damaging for the wrong candidate. If Cheney opts to run for president, her run could be more threatening for President Joe Biden than it would be for former President Donald Trump, according to the results of a new Yahoo News/YouGov poll.

Per Yahoo News, the poll suggests, "if Cheney were to run for president as an independent in 2024, she could actually do the opposite. She could single-handedly swing the election to Trump."

The survey is reportedly based on results from 1,563 U.S. adults following Cheney's loss to a Trump-backed Republican candidate in Wyoming's primary election. Cheney's challenger managed to win the election by more than 40 percentage points.
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2024 National General Election Poll:

Biden 44%
DeSantis 23%
Trump 18%
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Biden 43%
DeSantis 40%

Biden 45%
Trump 40%

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Gallup, Aug 1-23

44% approve (+6)
53% disapprove (-6)

(from their last poll in late July)


https://news.gallup.com/poll/398117/bid ... -year.aspx
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Emerson

42% approve (+2)
51% disapprove (-2)

change since July

https://emersoncollegepolling.com/augus ... il_id=1628
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