2027-2028 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

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Elections in 2027 and 2028...And of course the presidential primary and general election!

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BUTTIGIEG/NEWSOM 2028?
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Bold to assume there'll be free and fair elections by then...

firestar464 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:05 pm BUTTIGIEG/NEWSOM 2028?
A gay man, with a "coastal elite" as running mate? The right-wing media would savage them.

I think the Democrats need someone completely new. A left-wing populist with a strong anti-establishment narrative, who isn't afraid to take on corporate interests and propose radical reforms.

Bernie Sanders would've been perfect in 2016, but that ship has sailed.

The DNC seems like the most incompetent organisation in the Western world. I'm sure they'll nominate another centrist yet again, when it's clear that most of their supporters want somebody further left who can truly inspire and energise them.
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wjfox wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:35 pm Bold to assume there'll be free and fair elections by then...
As long as Trump and his coalition are rendered lame duck by legal roadblocks. That's why the Democrats in the US Senate is ramming through as many candidates for circuit judges they can confirm right now.
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wjfox wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:35 pm I think the Democrats need someone completely new. A left-wing populist with a strong anti-establishment narrative, who isn't afraid to take on corporate interests and propose radical reforms.
Tim Walz was the closest to this and we see how that turned out. Media and polling have proven to not only be entirely untrustworthy, but this will be made truer when synthetic media really takes off soon.

Best thing you could hope for is splitting the party and somehow hoping a new third party which separates from the DNC is successful, but we're also assuming here that the Dems are the sole issue and not also the electorate as well.

Unless there is some sort of Covid like calamity, and I'd rather there wasn't, I don't expect the Dems to win with the above lineup at all even without Trump. Assuming he doesn't somehow manage to stay, anyways.
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raklian wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:09 pm
wjfox wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:35 pm Bold to assume there'll be free and fair elections by then...
As long as Trump and his coalition are rendered lame duck by legal roadblocks. That's why the Democrats in the US Senate is ramming through as many candidates for circuit judges they can confirm right now.
I mean he can still pull a Germany 1933, that is, make Congress pass an enabling act at gunpoint. Schedule F is also going to make the civil service beholden to him (though worth noting that Joe Biden had implemented an Office of Personnel Management regulation enshrining civil service protections, which would take months to repeal).

Also Tim Walz is kind of old. I'm afraid he might become another Joe by 2028
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weatheriscool wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:48 pm
Naaaah no way Harris is getting nominated again.

The left needs their own Trump. Others seem to have realised this earlier than me (the DNC have not). They need someone who talks mad shit, proposes radical things, pisses loads of people off and makes big, bold promises they'll probably never make good on.

I agree with Wjfox, though. I'm honestly somewhat sceptical America's next election will be free and fair. If they nominate another useless centrist then we can welcome President JD Vance.
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Bird wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:44 am The left needs their own Trump. Others seem to have realised this earlier than me (the DNC have not).
That would be a left-wing populist that has the energy and charisma to excite the people: Bernie Sanders. Unfortunately, the DNC has actively conspired to prevent a populist from winning (superdelegates, moving their first primary to South Carolina where establishment politicians are more likely to win, having many people run against Bernie in 2020 and then conveniently drop out all at once to support Biden, etc). Sadly, there is nobody on the left that even compares to Bernie in terms of ideals, charisma, and public enthusiasm.
firestar464 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 am Also Tim Walz is kind of old. I'm afraid he might become another Joe by 2028
The poor guy looks a lot older than he is. He was born in 1964, the same year as Kamala Harris. I doubt that Tim Walz will run though.
wjfox wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:35 pm Bernie Sanders would've been perfect in 2016, but that ship has sailed.

The DNC seems like the most incompetent organisation in the Western world. I'm sure they'll nominate another centrist yet again, when it's clear that most of their supporters want somebody further left who can truly inspire and energise them.
Unpopular opinion: Bernie Sanders is not too old to run in 2028. I don't think age is the issue, it's cognitive health. Biden dropped out due to his cognitive health, not his age. Bernie's cognitive health is great, he speaks coherently and shows no indications of senility. The "new generation of leadership" has to do with ideas, not age. The people would rather have an old populist than a young person who is saying the same old things. Bernie's ideas were the new generation of leadership, and the DNC rejected them.

That being said, I sadly don't think Bernie will run in 2028. There's almost no chance he runs. I expect another centrist corporatist to be the Democrat nominee in 2028, and I expect the Republican nominee in 2028 to be either Ron DeSantis or JD Vance. The DNC is the same organization that lost to Trump twice (and maybe would have lost in 2020 if it wasn't for the Covid pandemic making people angry at the incumbent), and so unfortunately I don't expect anything great from them.
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Trump did not run on economic working-class populism though....he quite literally hammered in on the very things people (analyst) thought would end his campaign, so I really do not subscribe to this idea that a more left-wing figure would make that much a difference. The middle east situation also does not describe it as most people who voted for Trump couldn't really care about it in the same sense the "left" in America does. If anything, that might've made it worse.

The economic policies which Kamala did focus on, more famously grocery prices, home buying, healthcare forgiveness, etc... people either didn't focus on, the media failed to highlight, or it was outright deemed Communism by others. And yes, this also extends to Tim Walz. What was hammered on the most in the campaign was Roe v Wade, and I'd like to think such isn't that much a "corpo centrist" issue at all.

People really need to come to grips with Americans not "secretly" being center-left or anything close to it.
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Apparently any populism will do for Americans.
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firestar464 wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:51 pm Apparently any populism will do for Americans.
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NOT just no, but f*ck no! This person is literally the biggest mistake to ever enter democratic politics in the past 40 years.
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weatheriscool wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:24 pm NOT just no, but f*ck no! This person is literally the biggest mistake to ever enter democratic politics in the past 40 years.
Pretty sure that would be Hillary in most people's eyes if not Trump himself. I do wonder how different things would be if Trump (or Hillary) never ran.

If you meant democratic politics to mean democratic party, then the damage was already done with HRC.
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Imagine Kamala running again. BRUHHHHHH

We could be entering an era of constant rematches
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With Tran having defeated Michelle Steele, if this race holds, House Democrats will have 215 seats - only three away from majority. In this election, it turns out the House Democrats may have gained a seat. Republicans have a very, very weak majority. They're going to have to share a lot of subcommittee power with the Democrats. What mandate? Trump is going to have a tough time getting a lot of things he wants. If Trump screws up with his tariffs, we're going to see a massive reversal in favor of the House Democrats in 2026.

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weatheriscool wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:58 pm
Are they stupid?
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