Agreed, but Elon also needs to be taught a lesson. He's very clearly becoming a national security threat in the US at this point.
Quoting myself here..andmar74 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:26 am How can Putin get out of this without loosing face?
When I was thinking about this, it became obvious:
The Russians will leave Crimea and the rest of Ukraine, and Putin will explain that Russia couldn't keep on fighting all of NATO, which is 30 countries. Now this is even mostly true. A huge amount of weapons and ammunition has been sent to Ukraine, to the point where the NATO members are running low on military equipment. Ukrainian soldiers and other personel are trained in NATO countries, and prior to the war the Ukrainian army was trained by NATO personel in Ukraine. Also, Ukraine is surely getting a lot of intel from the west.
Putin will also say that a lot of nazis have been tortured and killed, so under the circumstances it's a success.
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-just ... ar-1751426that Putin "could just flat leave, and still probably hold his position together in Russia," as questions have arisen about whether the Kremlin resident can stay in power without winning some kind of victory.
Biden said Putin might be able to tell the Russian people "that this something that he thought made sense, but now he's accomplished what he wanted to do, and it's time to bring Russians home."
.Agreed, but Elon also needs to be taught a lesson
not constantly concealing what my intent or positions are unlike some users (ibm).
Are we talking about the Free Press here?Never bite the hand that feeds you.
Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/sanctions-ta ... 25113.html
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The United States on Friday warned it can impose sanctions on people, countries and companies that provide ammunition to Russia or support its military-industrial complex, as Washington seeks to increase pressure on Moscow over the war in Ukraine.
Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo, at a first-of-its kind gathering with officials from 32 countries and the United States to discuss sanctions on Russia, made clear that Washington is prepared to take action against those outside the United States evading Washington's sanctions.
Officials at the meeting, which included representatives from EU countries, Canada and South Korea, discussed additional steps planned to target Russia's military-industrial complex and the effects of several rafts of sanctions imposed by Washington and its partners over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, which has killed or wounded thousands.
The Treasury Department also warned that Washington is prepared to impose sanctions on those providing ammunition or other military goods to Russia as well as private military companies or paramilitary groups that participate in or support Russia's war in Ukraine.
I cannot remember US imposing sanctions on UK for selling weapons to Saudi Arabia while the invasion of Yemen.WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The United States on Friday warned it can impose sanctions on people...
Read more here: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ ... d-kherson(The Drive) Ukrainian forces are back on the move in Kherson Oblast, with reports of fierce fighting at the frontlines and varying stages of panic among Russian Telegram channels.
Reports indicate the offensive remains focused on the Dnipro River’s west bank in an effort to trap Russian forces in a rapid drive to take river crossings.
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The Russian position in Kherson has reportedly weakened enough to where some western officials believe Kherson could be liberated within the week. If Ukraine's offensive continues down the river bank, they could take or cut off the oft-targeted crossings at Nova Kakhovka and both Antonivksiy bridges long before entering the city of Kherson itself. Their capture with the Russians still in Kherson would indicate a massive encirclement.
The move forces Russia to choose between maintaining its broad frontline or retreating out of the city and across the river. The prospects of encirclement apparently have many Russian mil-bloggers and Russian occupation officials in a panic.
Read more here: https://www.courthousenews.com/putin-o ... -ukraine/(Courthouse News) — Appearing confident and relaxed, Russian President Vladimir Putin held a news conference on Friday where he said he did not regret ordering an invasion of his neighbor and that Russia does not intend to “destroy all of Ukraine.”
“Our goal is not to destroy all of Ukraine,” Putin said at a wide-ranging news conference in Astana, Kazakhstan.
It was a rare occasion where he discussed the war in Ukraine in a public format since ordering the invasion of Russia’s southern neighbor on Feb. 24, a decision that’s thrown into chaos world affairs and sparked fears of a nuclear confrontation between Moscow and Washington.
His statement about not wanting to destroy “all of Ukraine” comes after nearly eight months of a war that has gone very poorly for Putin and his army.
Western and Ukrainian leaders accuse him of indeed trying to destroy Ukraine as a state and forcing it to come under Russian control. Critics charge Putin with seeking to reestablish the Russian Empire.
