Ukraine War Watch Thread

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[firestar464]

More on that by CBC:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-mis ... -1.7389602

No he won't. That'd provoke a nuclear war. Putin wants to make the West afraid of provoking a nuclear war, but he does not want to provoke one himself. Unfortunately politicians seem to fail to realize that and pursue cowardly "risk management" policies that make life harder for Ukraine.

Also he specifically said that "We have a right to use weapons against military objects of those who use weapons against us." Not sure if he's referring to Ukraine or Western arms suppliers.

[firestar464]

https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-f ... 024-11-28/

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[firestar464]

https://www.ft.com/content/8a80fa59-c65 ... 0364ce8913

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If Biden wants ukraine to win then he need to give ukraine nukes and the ability to get them to moscow.

[firestar464]

To put it bluntly, have you been listening at all? How would that not start a nuclear war?

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[firestar464]

How the hell is this oped defending Yanukovych? Also this also promotes the Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory. Jeez. Shame on the Hill. Beats me as to why this was even posted to this thread.

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[firestar464]

Russian internet provider confirms its network was ‘destroyed’ following attack claimed by Ukrainian hackers

https://therecord.media/russian-interne ... yberattack

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U.S. Hits Russian Oil with Toughest Sanctions Yet in Bid to Give Ukraine and Trump Leverage
January 11, 2025

Introduction:

(EurActiv) US President Joe Biden’s administration imposed its broadest package of sanctions so far targeting Russia’s oil and gas revenues on 10 January, in an effort to give Kyiv and Donald Trump’s incoming team leverage to reach a deal for peace in Ukraine.

The move is meant to cut Russia’s revenues for continuing the war in Ukraine that has killed more than 12,300 civilians and reduced cities to rubble since Moscow invaded in February, 2022.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said in a post on X that the measures announced on Friday will “deliver a significant blow” to Moscow. “The less revenue Russia earns from oil … the sooner peace will be restored,” Zelenskyy added.

Additional extract:

Reversal would involve congress
One of the Biden officials said it was “entirely” up to the President-elect Trump, a Republican, who takes office on 20 January, when and on what terms he might lift sanctions imposed during the Biden era.

But to do so he would have to notify Congress and give it the ability to take a vote of disapproval, he said. Many Republican members of Congress had urged Biden to impose Friday’s sanctions.

Read more here: https://www.euractiv.com/section/globa ... everage/

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U.S. Hits Russian Oil with Toughest Sanctions Yet in Bid to Give Ukraine and Trump Leverage
January 11, 2025

Introduction:

(EurActiv) US President Joe Biden’s administration imposed its broadest package of sanctions so far targeting Russia’s oil and gas revenues on 10 January, in an effort to give Kyiv and Donald Trump’s incoming team leverage to reach a deal for peace in Ukraine.

The move is meant to cut Russia’s revenues for continuing the war in Ukraine that has killed more than 12,300 civilians and reduced cities to rubble since Moscow invaded in February, 2022.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said in a post on X that the measures announced on Friday will “deliver a significant blow” to Moscow. “The less revenue Russia earns from oil … the sooner peace will be restored,” Zelenskyy added.

Additional extract:

Reversal would involve congress
One of the Biden officials said it was “entirely” up to the President-elect Trump, a Republican, who takes office on 20 January, when and on what terms he might lift sanctions imposed during the Biden era.

But to do so he would have to notify Congress and give it the ability to take a vote of disapproval, he said. Many Republican members of Congress had urged Biden to impose Friday’s sanctions.

Read more here: https://www.euractiv.com/section/globa ... everage/

Feel this title is at odds with itself. To give Ukraine leverage is true, but it would take leverage away from Trump as he is a pro-Putin stooge who wants to make a deal far more favorable for Russia than Ukraine.

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U.S. Hits Russian Oil with Toughest Sanctions Yet in Bid to Give Ukraine and Trump Leverage
January 11, 2025

Introduction:

(EurActiv) US President Joe Biden’s administration imposed its broadest package of sanctions so far targeting Russia’s oil and gas revenues on 10 January, in an effort to give Kyiv and Donald Trump’s incoming team leverage to reach a deal for peace in Ukraine.

The move is meant to cut Russia’s revenues for continuing the war in Ukraine that has killed more than 12,300 civilians and reduced cities to rubble since Moscow invaded in February, 2022.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said in a post on X that the measures announced on Friday will “deliver a significant blow” to Moscow. “The less revenue Russia earns from oil … the sooner peace will be restored,” Zelenskyy added.

Additional extract:

Reversal would involve congress
One of the Biden officials said it was “entirely” up to the President-elect Trump, a Republican, who takes office on 20 January, when and on what terms he might lift sanctions imposed during the Biden era.

But to do so he would have to notify Congress and give it the ability to take a vote of disapproval, he said. Many Republican members of Congress had urged Biden to impose Friday’s sanctions.

Read more here: https://www.euractiv.com/section/globa ... everage/

Feel this title is at odds with itself. To give Ukraine leverage is true, but it would take leverage away from Trump as he is a pro-Putin stooge who wants to make a deal far more favorable for Russia than Ukraine.

I understand what you are saying, and it may turn out to be a very valid point. Still, the described action does "bid to give Trump leverage" regarding Russia. Whether Trump elects to utilize that leverage is up to Trump. Yes, he may see it as complicating his role as a "pro-Putin stooge". That does not change the idea that a bid has been made to give Trump leverage over Russia. Biden is not seeking to strengthen Trump's role as a "pro-Putin stooge". The ball is in Trump's court.

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Trump demands $500B in rare earths from Ukraine for continued support
“We have to get something. We can’t continue to pay this money,” U.S. president says.

February 11, 2025 7:09 am CET
By Seb Starcevic

American support for Ukraine has a price tag: $500B worth of mineral riches, said U.S. President Donald Trump.

In the second part of an interview with Fox News that aired late Monday, the Republican said the U.S. should get a slice of Ukraine’s vast natural resources as compensation for the hundreds of billions it has spent on helping Kyiv resist Russia's full-scale invasion.

“I told them [Ukraine] that I want the equivalent like $500B worth of rare earth. And they've essentially agreed to do that so at least we don’t feel stupid,” Trump said.

“Otherwise, we're stupid. I said to them we have to — 'we have to get something. We can’t continue to pay this money,'” he added.


Ukraine holds huge deposits of critical elements and minerals, from lithium to titanium, which are vital to manufacturing modern technologies. It also has vast coal reserves, as well as oil, gas and uranium, but much of this is in territories under Russian control.

more...

https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-d ... r-support/

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