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News and discussion on the new alliance between the U.S., U.K. and Australia. One of the first things that will be done is technology transfer to allow Australia to acquire nuclear submarines.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/1 ... ing-511877
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France is looking for an excuse to widen its relationship with America. The submarine deal isn’t really a big deal. The reason this is happening is that the EU with France and Germany in consort are acting in their imperial interests. Meaning that as the the rate of profit falls imperial powers will no longer be able to share profits and will be forced to compete for them instead.

The primary imperial blocs that are formed or forming right now are America and its allies, China, Russia and the EU.

Another example of French intentions are how quickly Macron’s administration provided “financial aid” to Lebenon after the country faced collapse due to that catastrophic explosion. France has every intention of wielding financial control over Lebenon.
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To be honest it's Canada who should be most pissed off right now, not France. This is also turning into an election issue, as the snub to Canada is very evident. It's understandable that New Zealand isn't included due to it's nuclear ban, but why are you excluding Canada from this considering it is another member of the Five Eyes and the Anglosphere and a bigger country than Australia.

Are these 3 trying to sideline Canada, or say it isn't capable of helping countering China even though has heavily been involved in the telecommunications dispute/trade warring with China to an extent even larger than any of the other members? Did you just forget to tell them to see if they want to be involved, seems particularly disrespectful since America also did this during Afghanistan where they didn't call PM Trudeau regarding evacuating citizens beforehand one of the few allies they didn't, and Trump's DOJ got Canadians taken hostage in China through their extradition request for Meng Wenzhou. Or is this snub by design as they don't want to improve the Canadian navy to undermine their sovereignty in the Northwest Passage dispute. Not to be cynical but I tend to lean towards number 3.

As a Canadian, this is at best major negligence of Canadian relations by the Americans, at worst it is an act suggesting ill-intent if not outright hostility... The Canadian establishment is sounding pissed off... there hasn't been as much of a reaction as there is an election. Trudeau is trying to downplay it to avoid embarrassing himself being caught of guard by Biden again... but if he gets re-elected I assume he is going to be FURIOUS.

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With AUKUS Dividing the Western Bloc, Is There a Role for India?
by C Raja Mohan
September 22, 2021

https://indianexpress.com/article/opini ... e-7523389/

Introduction:
(The Indian Express) More than four decades ago, Washington decided to end its commitment to supply nuclear fuel for the Tarapur Atomic Power Station that it helped build. That decision was triggered by the sharp reaction in the US Congress against India’s 1974 nuclear test. India was furious with American unilateralism.

After Ronald Reagan took charge of the White House in 1981, his advisers were eager to improve ties with India and fix the Tarapur problem that appeared so intractable. The new US domestic non-proliferation law barred nuclear fuel supply to India. But the international nuclear rules did not. Washington turned to Paris to step in to replace the US as the supplier of fuel to Tarapur. The Tarapur diplomacy was a win-win for all. India got to run Tarapur; the US stayed within the confines of its domestic law; and France got the contract.

Where there is will, the Tarapur diplomacy reminds us, there is a way. That brings us to AUKUS — the nuclear coalition, which has ignited unprecedented French fury. Could not Australia, United Kingdom and the United States devise a sensible way for Canberra to get out of the conventional submarine contract with Paris and turn to London and Washington for a new agreement on the supply of nuclear-powered submarines? That the issue was handled poorly is not in doubt. All that, however, is water under the bridge. The angry French reaction — marked by a rare recall of envoys from Washington and Canberra — suggests it will be a while before the crisis can be overcome. There is concern that AUKUS could leave a deep scar on US-EU relations and the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, and weaken the international coalition in the Indo-Pacific. Is there something that Delhi could do to heal the rift among its valued friend? An intense round of Indian diplomacy in New York and Washington this week should answer that question.
Further Extract:
…Many had presumed that the Anglosphere was about dead white English-speaking men — AUKUS, however, is a reminder that Anglo-Saxon political bonds endure. Instead of treating the Anglosphere with disdain, Delhi has begun to vigorously engage with the “settler colonies” that have so much to offer India — from natural resources to higher education and critical technologies.
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Biden Speaks With Macron for First Time Since Diplomatic Crisis
by Erin Doherty
September 22, 2021

https://www.axios.com/biden-macron-talk ... 22c8d.html

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(Axios) President Biden on Wednesday spoke with French President Emmanuel Macron for the first time since a diplomatic row erupted over a scrapped submarine order, per the White House.

Driving the news: Macron said that the French ambassador will return to Washington next week and will resume working with senior U.S. officials.
  • Biden and Macron will also meet in Europe at the end of October to discuss the trilateral security pact that sparked the diplomatic crisis and "reach shared understandings and maintain momentum in this process," per the White House.
What they're saying: "The two leaders agreed that the situation would have benefitted from open consultations among allies on matters of strategic interest to France and our European partners," the White House said in a statement.
  • "The two leaders have decided to open a process of in-depth consultations, aimed at creating the conditions for ensuring confidence and proposing concrete measures toward common objectives," the White House added.
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UK Labour Conference Condemns AUKUS as Threat to World Peace
by Brett Wilkins
September 27, 2021

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/ ... orld-peace

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(Common Dreams) "AUKUS is the next step in a new cold war with China," said one opponent of the trilateral agreement. "It makes the Indo-Pacific, and the world, a more dangerous, not a more stable, place."

Echoing concerns raised by international activists over the perils posed by the three-nation AUKUS agreement, delegates at the U.K. Labour Conference on Monday voted to condemn the new military pact between Australia, the United Kingdom, and the United States as a threat to world peace.

Labour Party members voted 70.35% to 29.65% on the motion condemning AUKUS during the Brighton conference, according to The Independent. The Labour delegates join global peace advocates and nations including China—whom critics say the pact seeks to contain—in denouncing the agreement.

Countering Conservative British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's claim that AUKUS will "promote stability" in the Indo-Pacific region, the motion stated that "this is a dangerous move which will undermine world peace," and that the conference "resolves to oppose the AUKUS agreement and make appropriate moves to de-escalate the situation."

The Guardian called the motion "an embarrassment" for Labour Leader Keir Starmer, who recently told Parliament that the party "welcomes" the "increased cooperation" with Britain's allies.
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