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Like in WWII, the willingness to go on with the war increases with the distance.

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ibm9000 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:37 pm
...unless there is a clear logical (the spirit of this thread) or chronological sequence tying them together.
If by "spirit" you mean "is dedicated to", 'the backlog of arms delivery', due to the war in Ukraine, is on topic? The thread is: "Ukraine War Watch", so the war in Ukraine; and I don't think the word "spirit" was the best option, but I do think there is a lot of ambiguity.
The situation in Taiwan now, due to that backlog, belongs only to a China/Taiwan thread? Only to this one as a consequence of this war? I think it belongs to both, and I think we are going to agree to differ. We might agree about how deep into the other conflict we should go here, again, your opinion about how much or my opinion about it; as clear for you as it is for me. Censorship after, not before.

(Unless someone can guide me into the right path to the "spirit").
It's fine to briefly mention China/Taiwan how it relates to the war in Ukraine but to discuss it more than a passing mention or reference is taking it outside the scope (yes, the spirit) of this thread. From now on, if I see you post something that doesn't make the war in Ukraine the principal focus, I will remove it. This is necessary to bring the discussion back on topic. If this is what it takes to make you understand the "right path to the spirit," so be it.
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US sanctions Belarus' election officials, president's plane
Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. imposed sanctions Friday on seven Belarusian elections officials, two state-owned automotive manufacturers and President Alexander Lukashenko’s aircraft. Lukashenko, who has ruled Belarus since 1994, intensified his repression after a wave of protests in 2020 following a presidential election that the West and Belarus’ opposition denounced as a sham.

Lukashenko also has close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin and has allowed him to station troops and weapons there to support his war in Ukraine. Those sanctioned Friday include a new slate of commissioners on Belarus’ Central Election Commission, which was originally sanctioned in December 2020.

Lukashenko accused the opposition presidential candidate, Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, of plotting to overthrow the government. This month, a Belarusian court sentenced Tsikhanouskaya, now living in exile, to 15 years in prison. Lukashenko’s aircraft, a Boeing 737 that he uses for international travel, was also designated for sanctions, which blocks its use in the U.S.

BelAZ, one of the largest manufacturers of large trucks and dump trucks in the world, and the automotive manufacturer MAZ were also sanctioned. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement that the U.S. “will continue to impose costs on the regime and those who support it for their repression of the people of Belarus” and for the Belarusian government’s support for Russia’s war.
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Russia-Ukraine war live: Russian assault on Bakhmut has ‘largely stalled’, says UK ministry

Sat 25 Mar 2023 08.29 GMT

Russia’s assault on the fiercely contested eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut has “largely stalled”, the UK’s Ministry of Defence says.

It said in its latest intelligence update:
This is likely primarily a result of extreme attrition of the Russian force. Ukraine has also suffered heavy casualties during its defence.
The ministry said Russia’s situation had likely been worsened by “tensions between the Russian ministry of defence and Wagner Group, both of whom contribute troops in the sector”.

The battle over Bakhmut has been the longest and bloodiest of Russia’s war in Ukraine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ed-says-uk


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Ukraine war: Germany sends much-awaited Leopard tanks

8 hours ago

The first shipment of Leopard 2 tanks from Germany has been sent to Ukraine, the German defence ministry says.

Eighteen cutting-edge main battle tanks were delivered after Ukrainian crews were trained to use them.

Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said he was sure the tanks could "make a decisive contribution" on the frontlines of the war.

Challenger 2 tanks from the UK have also arrived, according to reports from Ukraine.

Ukraine has been calling for more modern vehicles and weapon systems for months to help fight Russia's invasion.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65095126
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Notorious Russian Colonel Who Oversaw Slaughter Of Hundreds Of Ukrainian Troops Is Found Dead
Russian Colonel Dmitry Lisitsky, who was responsible for war crimes in Ukraine, was found dead with a gunshot wound in his home city.

The cause of his death is disputed, with conflicting reports from the Ukrainian and Russian sides – one side claims it was an elimination while the other is calling it suicide, respectively.

Yuri Butusov, who was the first to report the news to the Western world, claimed that Lisitsky was “liquidated” as retribution for the 2014 ‘Ilovaisk cauldron’ massacre in the Donetsk region, where more than 350 Ukrainian servicemen were killed after pro-Russian troops mowed down retreating Ukrainians during a ceasefire. The man responsible for the carnage was Lisitsky.

Putin’s reaction to the massacre was to give the commander of Russia’s first Airborne Assault Battalion of the 247th Airborne Assault Regiment the nation’s highest medal, “the Hero of Russia.”
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Reznikov writes that artillery plays a “crucial role in eliminating the enemy’s military power”. On average Ukraine was firing 110,000 155mm-calibre shells a month, he says — a quarter of the amount used by Russia.
Is the Ukrainian MoD saying that Russia is eliminating as much as three times more of Ukrainian military power?
Is that how Ukraine has been winning the war so far?
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ibm9000 wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:40 pm
Reznikov writes that artillery plays a “crucial role in eliminating the enemy’s military power”. On average Ukraine was firing 110,000 155mm-calibre shells a month, he says — a quarter of the amount used by Russia.
Is the Ukrainian MoD saying that Russia is eliminating as much as three times more of Ukrainian military power?
Is that how Ukraine has been winning the war so far?
This is what happens when one takes things out of context. Lost in this discussion is an assessment of effectiveness of artillery. Maybe if the Russian artillery concentrated its fire on military objectives, it would be more effective in "eliminating the enemy's military power." Instead, one can infer that perhaps the Ukrainian artillery was simply more effective at targeting military operations. If you go back several pages, there is a discussion of both the relative accuracy of Ukrainian weapons, as well as the striking of non-military targets by Russian forces. Whether that is what Reznikov is actually trying to infer depends upon the context of his statement. Out of that context, the question becomes unanswerable. In the context of this thread, it can be answered in the way that I suppose.
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...out of context.
The context is that Russia still owns 100.000sqkm of Ukrainian soil, that could be a hint about how effective the artillery of U. actually is (after abandoning a lot more).
Maybe R. has enough ammo to shell other targets (it is a war, everything is a military target). One can infer that perhaps we keep repeating that whatever U. does is a success and that every single R. action is a failure, (but for our advice to U. about aiming before firing). A discussion about accuracy while the war is still going on is going to be a lot of propaganda, it has to be (any R. invited, to compare numbers?).
True, maybe Reznikov is just crying wolf, maybe just blaming the West, maybe is just another official statement (we got a few of those, didn't we?).
True again, it can be answered in so many ways... specially if in the context of this thread we are trying to sell that R. lost the war (one year ago) and that U. is about to win it (with the next offensive) or the other way around.
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