Ukraine War Watch Thread

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EU Commission Chief in Hot Water Over Ukraine War Loss Estimates
by Alexandra Brzozowski
December 1, 2022

November , 2022

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(EurActiv) European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has come under fire for publishing and then unpublishing a video containing what appears to be a very high estimate of killed Ukrainian military officers.

The backlash came after von der Leyen said in a video message on Wednesday (30 November) that an estimated 120,000 Ukrainians had been killed during Russia’s war.

“It is estimated that 20,000 civilians and more than 100,000 Ukrainian military officers have been killed so far,” von der Leyen said in the original version of the video, reshared later by Twitter users.

She did, however, not specify where the data came from.

The European Commission later deleted the video of von der Leyen’s speech, as well as its transcript, and republished both without the sentence containing the numbers.
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G7 coalition agrees $60 per barrel price cap for Russian oil

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy ... 022-12-02/
WASHINGTON/BRUSSELS, Dec 2 (Reuters) - The Group of Seven (G7) nations and Australia on Friday said they had agreed a $60 per barrel price cap on Russian seaborne crude oil after European Union members overcame resistance from Poland and hammered out a political agreement earlier in the day.

The EU agreed the price after holdout Poland gave its support, paving the way for formal approval over the weekend.

The G7 and Australia said in a statement the price cap would take effect on Dec. 5 or very soon thereafter.
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The fall of Poo-Tin is really happening:

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Xyls wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:56 am The fall of Poo-Tin is really happening:

It's going to be funny when they discover him dead laying in his own crap. lol....He probably doesn't give a damn about his actions anymore because he's sicker then anyone outside of people very close to him think.
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International crisis or kindergarten scatology?

What was this thread about?
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ibm9000 wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:33 am
Show this to everyone who thinks that Ukraine should stop fighting for its people.
Up the Taliban! They kept fighting and they send the Americans packing.
Something like that?
First of all Taliban is political movement, and Ukraine is sovereign democratic state, and Ukrainians are an ethnic group of indigenous people of Ukraine.
And yes, we keep fighting and we will send the Russians to pack.
Of course, if other democracies support us.
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Nations are political movements and nationalism is an ideology. Ukraine is an oligarchy not a democracy. Most of the countries supporting Ukraine are oligarchies. Oligarchies can have “elections” that doesn’t make them democratic.
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erowind wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:02 pm Nations are political movements and nationalism is an ideology. Ukraine is an oligarchy not a democracy. Most of the countries supporting Ukraine are oligarchies. Oligarchies can have “elections” that doesn’t make them democratic.
At what point is a country no longer an oligarchy and instead deserves to be called a democracy? Are there any countries on the planet that qualify in your mind as being "a democracy"?
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One of the biggest shocks at least when dealing with war and foreign policy beliefs(for me but also for some serious people at state, etc) is literally seeing Russia being defeated by Ukraine. Anyone before this would have thought that they'd literally own Ukraine within 3-4 months.

Instead Putin is literally shitting his pants falling down stairs. lol
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erowind wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:02 pm Ukraine is an oligarchy not a democracy.
Let's assume, prove you point.
To began with, I propose to define with concept of oligarchy.
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