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And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future
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I mentioned the Nagorno-Karabakh war earlier
If we want to understand what the Ukraine war will hold, it's best to look back to it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_war
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U.S., Russia Leave Door Open for Dialogue Over Ukraine
by Cain Burdeau
January 21, 2022

https://www.courthousenews.com/us-russi ... r-ukraine/

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(Courthouse News) — A second week of high-stakes talks ended on Friday with still no signs of breakthroughs between the West and Moscow over NATO's expansion onto Russia's doorstep nor success at defusing a simmering armed conflict in Ukraine, though both superpowers appeared eager to let the door for diplomacy remain open.

At a hotel on Lake Geneva in Switzerland, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov on Friday to reassess the state of a military and political crisis for which all sides share responsibility. It is becoming obvious that the outbreak of a major war in Ukraine would be disastrous for all involved.

Simmering since 2014, armed conflict in Ukraine has led to the deaths of about 14,000 civilians in a civil war in the predominantly Russian eastern regions, which are seeking more independence from Kyiv through military force. The conflict has crippled the country economically and politically and forced about 1 million people to flee their homes in Donbas, a heavily populated industrial hub. After years of frozen conflict, the region is described as a war zone resembling the trenches, mud flats and deserted towns of World War I.

In Geneva, Lavrov and Blinken held separate news conferences at the conclusion of 90-minute face-to-face talks. Lavrov obtained promises from Blinken to provide a written response from the United States to demands Russia made in December for NATO to stop seeking to recruit Ukraine into the alliance and to withdraw troops and weapons from Eastern Europe, such as in Bulgaria, Romania and Poland.

Blinken repeated warnings that Russia would suffer severe consequences if it chooses to invade Ukraine, something the Kremlin denies it intends to do despite a large military buildup along Ukraine's borders.
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Any link to a in-depth article about possible scenarios?
How will the Russians start the invasion? What flanks? Will they bomb Ukraine first? How will Ukraine defend? Do they have many portable anti-tank weapons? How good are they? Can they hold Kiev?
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And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future
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UK warns Russia will face severe sanctions if it installs Ukraine 'puppet regime'
Source: Reuters
LONDON/KIYV, Jan 23 (Reuters) - Russia will face severe economic sanctions if it installs a puppet regime in Ukraine, a senior UK minister said on Sunday after Britain accused the Kremlin of seeking to install a pro-Russian leader there.

Britain made the accusation late on Saturday, also saying Russian intelligence officers had been in contact with a number of former Ukrainian politicians as part of plans for an invasion.

The Russian Foreign Ministry dismissed the comments as "disinformation", accusing Britain and NATO of "escalating tensions" over Ukraine.

Mykhailo Podolyak, a Ukrainian adviser to the presidential office, said the allegations should be taken seriously.

"There'll be very serious consequences if Russia takes this move to try and invade but also install a puppet regime," British Deputy Prime Minister Dominic Raab told Sky News on Sunday.
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 022-01-23/
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How can Russia install a puppet regime? Are the Ukraines just going to give their country away?
UK is threatening sanctions. Did they forget they left EU? Why would Russia care about what UK is saying.
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Ukraine: US orders families of embassy staff to leave
Source: BBC
The US has ordered the relatives of its embassy staff in Ukraine to leave amid rising tension in the region.

The State Department has also given permission for non-essential staff to leave and urged US citizens in Ukraine to consider departing.

In a statement. it said there were reports that Russia is planning significant military action against Ukraine.
Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60106416
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Europe's Energy Reliance on Russia is a Crucial Shield for Putin
by Andrew Freedman and Ben Geman

https://www.axios.com/eu-gas-scramble-r ... b2013.html

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(Axios) Cracks in the NATO alliance regarding sanctions for Russia should President Vladimir Putin order troops into Ukraine are in large part based on energy supply concerns.

Why it matters: Russia holds tremendous leverage over some European countries because it provides roughly 40% of Europe's natural gas supply. In Germany, this figure is greater than 50%.
  • Should Russia choose to cut off the supplies in the middle of winter in response to the imposition of Ukraine-related sanctions, energy costs would skyrocket and millions could shiver amid power outages.
  • This would put pressure on political leaders to weaken the sanctions.
Between the lines: "It's going to be an incredibly hard sell in any European country, to say that you have a 10 times higher energy bill and we feel as though our supply is not plentiful enough, because of Ukraine," Kristine Berzina, of the German Marshall Fund's Alliance for Securing Democracy.
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caltrek wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:59 pm Europe's Energy Reliance on Russia is a Crucial Shield for Putin
by Andrew Freedman and Ben Geman

https://www.axios.com/eu-gas-scramble-r ... b2013.html

Introduction:
(Axios) Cracks in the NATO alliance regarding sanctions for Russia should President Vladimir Putin order troops into Ukraine are in large part based on energy supply concerns.

Why it matters: Russia holds tremendous leverage over some European countries because it provides roughly 40% of Europe's natural gas supply. In Germany, this figure is greater than 50%.
  • Should Russia choose to cut off the supplies in the middle of winter in response to the imposition of Ukraine-related sanctions, energy costs would skyrocket and millions could shiver amid power outages.
  • This would put pressure on political leaders to weaken the sanctions.
Between the lines: "It's going to be an incredibly hard sell in any European country, to say that you have a 10 times higher energy bill and we feel as though our supply is not plentiful enough, because of Ukraine," Kristine Berzina, of the German Marshall Fund's Alliance for Securing Democracy.
What an embarrassment being a European. The United states is protecting us with military forces, and Russia is crucial for energy supply.
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