India/China Relations Watch Thread

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I somehow forgot this was still going on

China and India move tens of thousands of troops to the border as tensions rise
China and India have been moving tens of thousands troops to their disputed border as military tensions continue to rise since the skirmish between the two nuclear-armed neighbors last June.

China's People's Liberation Army has gradually increased numbers to at least 50,000, up from about 15,000 in June last year, Indian intelligence and military officials told the Wall Street Journal. It reported that numbers have mostly increased over the last few months.

India has also deployed tens of thousands of troops and heavy artillery has been sent to the region.

Much of the military build up has taken place in Eastern Ladakh, which overlaps Kashmir and Tibet, a key strategic area home to several critical rivers that supply vast amounts of waterflow to both China and India.
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China Beefs Up Military Position With More Indian Border Units
by Lucas Niewenhuise
July 2, 2021

https://supchina.com/2021/07/02/china-b ... vy-forces/

Introduction:
(SupChina) The centenary celebration of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), held yesterday in Tiananmen Square and featuring a defiant speech by General Secretary Xí Jìnpíng 习近平, did not include a full military parade. But in his speech, Xi did urge China to “accelerate the modernization of national defense and the armed forces.”

Meanwhile, several reports this week revealed how China is advancing its military position, both in geography and technology.

Over a year since the bloody India-China border clash of June 2020, the two sides remain at a stalemate, and the fuzzy line of actual control (LAC) marking their Himalayan border is more militarized than at perhaps any time since the Sino-Indian War of 1962.

Reports indicate that about a quarter million troops are stationed near the border, primarily on the Indian side, but both sides have increased deployments in recent months.
  • “India now has roughly 200,000 troops focused on the border…which is an increase of more than 40% from last year,” and an increase of 50,000 in recent weeks or months, Bloomberg reported.
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India, China Pull Back From Part of Contested Himalayan Border
August 6, 2021

https://www.courthousenews.com/india-ch ... an-border/

Introduction:
(Agence France Press via Courthouse News) — India and China have pulled back troops from a flashpoint zone on their disputed border where they fought a deadly battle last year, the Indian government said Friday.

The world's two most populous nations had poured tens of thousands of extra troops into the high-altitude Ladakh region in the Himalayas after the clash last year.

But the Indian Army said that following talks, rival troops in the Gogra area had moved back in a "phased, coordinated and verified manner" over the last two days.

"The troops in this area have been in a face-off situation since May last year," the statement said.

"With this, one more sensitive area of face-off has been resolved.
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Military Talks Between India and China to Continue
by Rahul Singh
October 2, 2021

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 22201.html

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(Hindustan Times) Army chief General Manoj Mukund Naravane on Saturday said that the next round of military talks with the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) to cool tensions along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in eastern Ladakh could take place in the second week of October.

Talking to reporters in Leh, the army chief said the situation on the contested LAC was under control and outstanding problems with the PLA could be resolved through talks and the two armies were holding the dialogue at the level of brigade commanders, division commanders and corps commanders.

Naravane was in Ladakh for a security review and his itinerary included visits to forward areas. The Indian Army and the Chinese PLA have been locked in a border standoff for almost 17 months and both sides are carrying out negotiations to reduce tensions.

The two sides have so far carried out 12 rounds of military talks to resolve the border row that erupted in May 2020. “The 13th round of talks will take place soon. Things move forward with every round of talks and gradually problems can be resolved through talks,” he said
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India, China Army Talks to Defuse Border Tensions Fail
October 11, 2021

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/ ... ons-ladakh

Introduction:
(Al Jazeera) Talks between Indian and Chinese army commanders to disengage troops from key friction areas along their border have ended in a stalemate and failed to ease a 17-month standoff that has sometimes led to deadly clashes, the two sides say.

The continuing standoff means the two nations will keep troops in the forward areas of Ladakh for a second consecutive winter in dangerously freezing temperatures.

India’s defence ministry, in a statement on Monday, said it gave “constructive suggestions” but the Chinese side was “not agreeable” and “could not provide any forward-looking proposals.”

A statement from a Chinese military spokesperson said “the Indian side sticks to unreasonable and unrealistic demands, adding difficulties to the negotiations”.

The commanders from both armies met for the talks on Sunday, after a gap of two months, at Moldo on the Chinese side in the Ladakh area.
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India-China Relations: Two Years After Galwan Clash
by Dr Rajeswari (Raji) Pillai Rajagopalan
June 18, 2022

Introduction:
(Observer Research Foundation) June 15 marked the second anniversary of the China-India clash in Galwan, a remote area in Ladakh along the Sino-Indian border. Two years after the clash, which resulted in the death of 20 Indian army personnel and at least four Chinese soldiers, tensions along the border remain real and the future course of bilateral relations is uncertain, at best. The two sides have continued to hold talks, both through diplomatic and military channels, but a resolution to the stand-off and the disengagement of forces does not appear likely in the near future. There has been no breakthrough in reaching a mutually agreeable arrangement for disengagement of troops at several points across the Line of Actual Control (LAC), including Patrol Point 15 near Kongka La, Depsang Bulge in Daulet Beg Oldi sector, and Charding Nullah Junction (CNJ) in Demchok.

There have been 15 rounds of talks between the two militaries at the corps commander level. These talks have been partially successful in disengaging the forces, but that there are around 60,000 troops on each side of the border is a testament to the absence of genuine progress over the past two years. The prevailing tension on the border is a symptom of the broader strategic competition between the two Asian neighbors.

Interestingly, China thought it appropriate to host the BRICS (which includes Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa) National Security Advisors (NSA) meeting on the day of the second anniversary of the Galwan conflict. Surprisingly, despite the anniversary, the Indian NSA attended the meeting without reservations, emphasizing counterterrorism cooperation. India is unlikely to get much satisfaction on this because China has once again blocked a joint India-U.S. proposal in the United Nations to list Pakistan-based terrorist Abdul Rehman Makki as a global terrorist under the U.N. Security Council’s ISIL (Da’esh) and Al-Qaida Sanctions Committee.
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Gunboat Diplomacy With Chinese Characteristics: Why Yuan Wang 5’s Arrival In Sri Lanka Is Consequential For South Asia – Analysis
by Professor Srikanth Kondapalli
September 2, 2022

Introduction:
(Eurasian Review) Despite serious reservations expressed by both Sri Lanka and India, and after a clearance delay of five days, China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Strategic Support Force vessel Yuan Wang 5 finally docked at Chinese-leased Hambantota port on 16 August 2022. Of course, the Sri Lankan government later clarified that the docking was for supplies and maintenance, and that the vessel wouldn’t undertake any “research” activities in its waters. While this point was reiterated by the ship’s captain, Zhang Hongwang, observers are taking it with a pinch of salt.

The resulting shadow-boxing between India and China, in the backdrop of an already strained relationship following the land skirmish in mid-2020 in Galwan, has consequences for the neighbourhood as well. The Yuan Wang 5 incident will strengthen China’s drive to acquire hegemony in South Asia and the Indian Ocean, in four areas. (Each of these areas are briefly discussed in the article linked below)
  • Disrupt South Asia to divide and rule
  • Coercion through gunboat diplomacy
  • Coercion through economic arm-twisting
  • Aggravate space and maritime competition


Read more here: https://www.eurasiareview.com/02092022 ... analysis/
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India Launches New Aircraft Carrier as Concerns Over China Grow
September 2, 2022

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(Al Jazeera) India has commissioned its first home-built aircraft carrier as it seeks to counter China’s much larger and growing fleet of warships and also expand India’s indigenous ship-building capabilities.

The INS Vikrant, whose name is the Sanskrit word for “powerful” or “courageous,” is India’s second-largest operational aircraft carrier and joins the Soviet-era INS Vikramaditya that was bought from Russia in 2004 to defend the Indian Ocean and Bay of Bengal.

Designed by the Indian navy and built in the Cochin Shipyard in southern India, the new 262-metre (860-foot) INS Vikrant was launched by Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Friday as part of the country’s commemoration of 75 years of independence from British rule.

More than just adding to the country’s naval capabilities, Modi stressed the importance of India now being only one of a handful of nations with an indigenous aircraft carrier production programme.

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India’s naval fleet now includes two aircraft carriers, 10 destroyers, 12 frigates and 20 corvette ships.

Read more here: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/ ... erns-grow
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^^^Here is some more analysis on that from an article dated October 8, 2022, by Vaibhav Tomar:
(Eurasia Review) In 1961, India became the first nation in the world to acquire an aircraft carrier. The country’s first aircraft carrier, the INS Vikrant, was purchased from the British. It played a role during the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War. During the conflict, the ship was used to blockade Pakistan’s shipping lanes. The Indian Navy has maintained carrier-based task forces since the country’s independence. These include destroyers, submarines, frigates, and other supporting vessels. However, these forces have always been accompanied by aircraft and foreign carriers.

The construction of the country’s first indigenous aircraft carrier, the INS Vikrant, marked a significant step in the country’s development. It will join a select group of nations that have built their own carriers. On September 2, Prime Minister Narendra Modi unveiled the ship, which was built at the Cochin Shipyard. It was designed by the Warship Design Bureau of the Indian Navy. The ship, which is expected to be fully operational by around 18 months, will be able to carry 30 aircraft and provide the Indian Navy with a variety of weapons. It will also become the most expensive military hardware in the country. The construction of the ship, which is part of Modi’s campaign to make the country’s defense manufacturing industry self-sufficient, has provided the Navy with an advantage over its neighbor.

Threat from China

For the first time in its history, India now faces a significant threat at sea from China. The country’s new aircraft carrier will have to be protected against various threats, but its advantages outweigh these risks. The construction of the new aircraft carrier has been a significant step in the country’s development. It will allow the Indian Navy to operate at a significant distance from its coastline. And the construction of the new aircraft carrier has been a significant step in the country’s development. It will allow the Navy to protect its maritime domain against China’s growing naval power. The country’s Navy believes that it needs more carriers to maintain its dominance in the Indian Ocean.
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Japan and India Are Pillars of a Free and Open Indo-Pacific
by Kaush Arha
May 14, 2023

Introduction:
(East Asi Forum via Eurasia Review) Japan and India’s national interests call for elevating a free and open Indo-Pacific (FOIP) as the bedrock for global peace, prosperity and a rules-based order. They should use their prerogative as hosts at the upcoming G7 and G20 Summits to cement a FOIP as the fulcrum of a free and open world.

Over the last half of the 20th century, international bodies often referred to a meeting of minds along the two sides of the North Atlantic. Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar observed that Europe tends to think its problems are the world’s problems while the world’s problems are not its own. In the 21st century, the fulcrum of the free world rests not in Europe but in the Indo-Pacific.

During his March 2023 visit to India, Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida articulated Japan’s new plan for a FOIP. As flagbearer of the Global South, India would do well to do the same. The two nations may herald the Indo-Pacific era by directly responding to the Global South’s concerns. India and Japan are firmly establishing the Indo-Pacific as the geoeconomic and geopolitical centre of the world and as the engine for prosperity for the Global South.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has jolted the world economy and regressed its growth. But the global economic impact of a China-induced conflict in the East or South China Seas would surpass that of the Russian war. The Indo-Pacific accounts for more than half of the world’s economy and population and is the thoroughfare for over two-thirds of global commerce.

Outside of Ukraine and Syria, the Indo-Pacific is one of the world’s biggest tinderboxes, with China engaging in territorial disputes with all its major neighbours and expanding its military might to achieve its claims. The Indo-Pacific is the bellwether and the bulwark for a free and open rules-based world.

Read more here: https://www.eurasiareview.com/14052023 ... nalysis/
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