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Largest School District In Vermont Unanimously Codifies Trans Rights For Students
While school districts grapple with attacks on transgender students, some schools are moving in the other direction. Champlain Valley School District has passed expansive rights for trans students.
Erin Reed
Oct 25, 2023

Transgender students have faced an array of threats in recent years. Several states have barred them from sports, restricted their bathroom access, banned books about them from school libraries, and even mandated forcibly outing them to their parents. Surprisingly, some school districts in even the more progressive states have adopted similar policies. The story in Vermont is different, however. Just last week, Champlain Valley School District, the state's largest, explicitly and comprehensively codified rights for transgender students within its jurisdiction.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/larg ... in-vermont

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New speaker of the House Mike Johnson once wrote in support of the criminalization of gay sex

Source: cnn


Published 2:20 PM EDT, Wed October 25, 2023

Speaker of the House Mike Johnson has a history of harsh anti-gay language from his time as an attorney for a socially conservative legal group in the mid-2000s.

In editorials that ran in his local Shreveport, Louisiana, paper, The Times, Johnson called homosexuality a “inherently unnatural” and “dangerous lifestyle” that would lead to legalized pedophilia and possibly even destroy “the entire democratic system.”

And, in another editorial, he wrote, “Your race, creed, and sex are what you are, while homosexuality and cross-dressing are things you do,” he wrote. “This is a free country, but we don’t give special protections for every person’s bizarre choices.”


At the time, Johnson was an attorney and spokesman for Alliance Defense Fund, known today as Alliance Defending Freedom, where he also authored his opposition to the Supreme Court ruling in Lawrence v. Texas – which overturned state laws that criminalized homosexual activity between consenting adults.

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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/politics ... index.html

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New speaker of the House Mike Johnson once wrote in support of the criminalization of gay sex

Source: cnn


Published 2:20 PM EDT, Wed October 25, 2023

Speaker of the House Mike Johnson has a history of harsh anti-gay language from his time as an attorney for a socially conservative legal group in the mid-2000s.........................

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/politics ... index.html

More on that:

Mike Johnson’s Long Flirtation With Christian Nationalism
by Madison Pauly
October 26, 2023

Introduction:

(Mother Jones) Bruce Parker remembers a time when he used to talk to the new Republican Speaker of the House, Rep. Mike Johnson, several times a week. It was the spring of 2015, just weeks before the Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage, and Johnson—then a freshman representative in the Louisiana state legislature—had proposed a bill forbidding state government from taking “adverse action” against anyone who acted based on “a religious belief or moral conviction about the institution of marriage.”

Parker, a longtime advocate for LGBTQ rights, was lobbying against Johnson’s bill, titled the “Marriage and Conscience Act” on behalf of queer and progressive state interest groups who saw it as a license to discriminate. But even as he worked at odds with the legislator, he felt Johnson cultivating a friendly relationship with him. Johnson would phone Parker to inform him of plans to promote the bill or speak to reporters about it, and end conversations by calling him his “brother in Christ.” “We communicated constantly, enough that I felt a genuine personal affinity for him while he was doing something that could have been very bad for myself and my community,” Parker, now deputy director of Out Boulder County, says. “That’s when I knew that he was a very talented politician. And I think that’s terrifying.”

Johnson’s 2015 bill died in committee, but it wasn’t the end, or even the beginning, of his work on anti-LGBTQ causes. The new Speaker of the House has spent almost the entirety of his career embedded in the world of far-right, religiously motivated policymaking and litigation. Long before he was even elected to the Louisiana legislature, he spent years as an attorney and spokesperson for the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), a powerful conservative organization that carries out much of the Christian right’s legal agenda. Now, Johnson—mildmannered yet relentless in pursuit of hard-line social conservatism—claims the mantle of speakership at a time of intense backlash against trans youth and other LGBTQ people, much of it fomented by the same organizations he’s spent much of his career collaborating with.

Read more here: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2 ... reedom/

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[Tadasuke]

I literally had no idea what LGBT or transsexual meant before 2014. Not that I was so young. It just happened, that I had completely zero interests in such topics. I spent my time on: computers, games (not only video games) and learning science or history. I also have Asperger's, so I'm a bit weird. I only knew terms yuri and shoujo ai for visual novel, manga and anime. /also happened to see some furry content online/ I was always more into girl x girl in VN&M&A, than into heterosexual (although that's ok too). Because the girls were so adorably cute!! But in the real life on Earth? Completely different situations. Better don't mix these two.

In 2014, I read online and watched about the so called "Gamergate". Then I learned about 4th wave feminism, LGBT and transsexuals. Obviously I was rather opposed. It's not helping me in any way (-removed by moderator-), so why would I be for it? My stance is, that in some future 100% private and closed virtual worlds, you could do whatever you want or prefer, including even some very extreme stuff. -removed by moderator- For one, we still can't make babies outside of women (but will be able to in a few decades).

So I'm 100% for transhumanism when it means improving everything that can be decent about humans, but could get much much better in the future. I don't want Alex Jones types to say bad things about transhumanists (I've always thought about him that he's crazy and wrong). What we need today is improving physical and mental health of humans and their pets.

[Vakanai]

I literally had no idea what LGBT or transsexual meant before 2014. Not that I was so young. It just happened, that I had completely zero interests in such topics. I spent my time on: computers, games (not only video games) and learning science or history. I also have Asperger's, so I'm a bit weird. I only knew terms yuri and shoujo ai for visual novel, manga and anime. /also happened to see some furry content online/ I was always more into girl x girl in VN&M&A, than into heterosexual (although that's ok too). Because the girls were so adorably cute!! But in the real life on Earth? Completely different situations. Better don't mix these two.

In 2014, I read online and watched about the so called "Gamergate". Then I learned about 4th wave feminism, LGBT and transsexuals. Obviously I was rather opposed. It's not helping me in any way (-removed by moderator-), so why would I be for it? My stance is, that in some future 100% private and closed virtual worlds, you could do whatever you want or prefer, including even some very extreme stuff. -removed by moderator- For one, we still can't make babies outside of women (but will be able to in a few decades).

So I'm 100% for transhumanism when it means improving everything that can be decent about humans, but could get much much better in the future. I don't want Alex Jones types to say bad things about transhumanists (I've always thought about him that he's crazy and wrong). What we need today is improving physical and mental health of humans and their pets.

For transgender individuals, being treated as the gender they identify with is what improves their mental health. Suicide is sadly exceptionally high in the trans community, and it wouldn't be if they were just treated like the men and women they are mentally instead of what an x or y chromosome says.

[raklian]

In 2014, I read online and watched about the so called "Gamergate". Then I learned about 4th wave feminism, LGBT and transsexuals. Obviously I was rather opposed. It's not helping me in any way (and likely being harmful), so why would I be for it? My stance is, that in some future 100% private and closed virtual worlds, you could do whatever you want or prefer, including even some very extreme stuff. But in the real world? There you have to behave appropriately, whether you like it or not! For one, we still can't make babies outside of women (but will be able to in a few decades).

Tadasuke, can you clarify those remarks which are underlined?

I hope you understand discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is against this forum's code of conduct, even you're not targeting anyone specifically.

If I don't get a response within 48 hours, I will have to take corrective measures which includes modifying the post in question and consulting with Wjfox on possible disciplinary action.

[Ozzie guy]

A lot of trans people don't like or agree with the current science on trans people so it is far from "woke" or placating.

Despite this the science actually says that mtf gender dysphoria won't go away post puberty, it tends to worsen with time and that they would be safer than the typical person assigned male at birth.

I think Caitlyn Jenner is a good example that no matter how successful someone was at living as male, no matter how much they repress and no matter how much stigma they may face for transition. Worsening gender dysphoria may still be bad enough to basically force transition.

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People that are trans are as real as autistic people. It is tied with the brainwiring of their brain based on the research I've read throughout the years. More gray matter in the areas of the opposite sex rather that is common from that of the birth "sex" of their bodies....You can't run from it and for a lot of them they're forced to transition or face very real pain and probably death. This is what the otherside can't understand as they can't fathom the reality that being trans is a biological construct and they don't wish to understand much of anything. We're dealing with some truly stupid and dense people.

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Being Trans In The UK Just Gets Worse And Worse – Here's The Proof

03/11/2023

Transgender Europe (TGEU) has published its 2023 Trans Rights Map which highlights the legal situation for trans rights in 49 countries across Europe and five in Central Asia. According to the map, which was created with a network of over 200 trans rights organisations, the UK is no longer ranked as one of the most progressive places for trans rights.

While this news paints a damning picture of the state of equality in the UK, it’s not surprising, as a YouGov poll released last year concluded that, “there has been an erosion in support of trans rights since 2018”.

Even just last month at the Tory Party conference, prime minister Rishi Sunak claimed that the general public were being “bullied” into thinking “people can be any sex they want to be” before stating: “A man is a man, and a woman is a woman, that’s just common sense.”

The health minister announced at the same conference that he wants to introduce a policy where trans women would be banned from female-only wards.

It was also reported earlier this year by the Home Office that transgender hate crimes had risen by 11% in the year to March 2023 compared to the year previous.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... e80b8bdc5a

The UK dropped from 1st in 2013 to 21st in 2023.

[Tadasuke]

For transgender individuals, being treated as the gender they identify with is what improves their mental health. Suicide is sadly exceptionally high in the trans community, and it wouldn't be if they were just treated like the men and women they are mentally instead of what an x or y chromosome says.

According to my sources, it's the other way around.

Here's a short version of a congressional hearing from a trans person who regrets:


Here's the long full version, if you want to listen to it all:


Here's another important video, very much worth watching:

Tadasuke, can you clarify those remarks which are underlined?

I hope you understand discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is against this forum's code of conduct, even you're not targeting anyone specifically.

If I don't get a response within 48 hours, I will have to take corrective measures which includes modifying the post in question and consulting with Wjfox on possible disciplinary action.

To clarify : I've been voting right-wing all my adult life and so have my parents. My stance is clear, that transhumanism is not about sex or gender change. It's about improvement. And obviously, virtual reality is counted separately, because it's not the real world, different rules apply. I don't care what you are doing there, when it's closed to me and fully private to you and possibly your friends. But I don't want woke agenda pushed around like it's the best thing ever. Transsexuals are depressed or commit suicides, because they are mentally ill or someone said or did something awful to them. I'm personally depressed, because I think, that the Universe is such a bad place, and there is so much to do in order to correct it, but unfortunately, other people are standing in the way of actual progress.

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I literally had no idea what LGBT or transsexual meant before 2014. Not that I was so young. It just happened, that I had completely zero interests in such topics. I spent my time on: computers, games (not only video games) and learning science or history. I also have Asperger's, so I'm a bit weird. I only knew terms yuri and shoujo ai for visual novel, manga and anime. /also happened to see some furry content online/ I was always more into girl x girl in VN&M&A, than into heterosexual (although that's ok too). Because the girls were so adorably cute!! But in the real life on Earth? Completely different situations. Better don't mix these two.

In 2014, I read online and watched about the so called "Gamergate". Then I learned about 4th wave feminism, LGBT and transsexuals. Obviously I was rather opposed. It's not helping me in any way (and likely being harmful), so why would I be for it? My stance is, that in some future 100% private and closed virtual worlds, you could do whatever you want or prefer, including even some very extreme stuff. But in the real world? There you have to behave appropriately, whether you like it or not! For one, we still can't make babies outside of women (but will be able to in a few decades).

So I'm 100% for transhumanism when it means improving everything that can be decent about humans, but could get much much better in the future. I don't want Alex Jones types to say bad things about transhumanists (I've always thought about him that he's crazy and wrong). What we need today is improving physical and mental health of humans and their pets.

To clarify : I've been voting right-wing all my adult life and so have my parents. My stance is clear, that transhumanism is not about sex or gender change. It's about improvement. And obviously, virtual reality is counted separately, because it's not the real world, different rules apply. I don't care what you are doing there, when it's closed to me and fully private to you and possibly your friends. But I don't want woke agenda pushed around like it's the best thing ever. Transsexuals are depressed or commit suicides, because they are mentally ill or someone said or did something awful to them. I'm personally depressed, because I think, that the Universe is such a bad place, and there is so much to do in order to correct it, but unfortunately, other people are standing in the way of actual progress.

I appreciate you're entitled to your own personal views, Tadasuke. However, the bottom line is, this forum should be a respectful and inclusive space for all members, including those from the LGBT community.

By invalidating gender transition as a form of human enhancement or self-improvement, you are basically denying the legitimacy of transgender identities and experiences. Your point about VR shows further intolerance, and using the term "woke agenda" creates a hostile environment for any LGBT members on here. It's also important to be sensitive, and nuanced, when discussing mental health. You've grossly oversimplified the issue.

So, if you wish to take part in this forum, please do so without marginalising other members.

[Ozzie guy]

I want to be truthful about the science I have read particularly when I think it's helpful but I don't want to upset my internet friends on this site by medicalizing them and saying things they may not agree with about themself. This is kind of the frame I am coming from. Of course I delved into the science for my own reasons.

The science I have read says there are 3 technically 4 different types of gender dysphoria. Chloe from those videos had one of those types being Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. It mostly (likely only) applies to natal females and we can screen it easily.