Breaking Out of the Simulation (Simulation Theory)

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1. Become as attractive as possible so your player/slavemaster/whatever will take you as their pet/fall in love with you. At the very least, they’ll keep you around.
2. Attempt to achieve the goal of the simulation, such as world peace or making a lot of money/becoming famous/donating to charity/etc. May or may not result in the termination of the simulation.

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I don't think the creator of the situation would care how you look because they would be more interested in the simulation. Also, as we don't know who created it, we wouldn't know when they would want to end the simulation.
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What makes you think that they wouldn’t care what you look like? How many of us care what our avatars look like when we play games? At the very least, they’re designed to be cool even if you choose the default character. Thinking soldiers, cyberpunk, mortal kombat, things like that.

If they think the simulation might ultimately fail (i.e. nuclear war), they may choose to end the simulation early.
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I would think the creator of the simulation would not be like us, even if they were a future human, so knowing what they would like would be impossible. Also, without knowing what the simulation is for, we couldn't know if it would be ended early.
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We can make educated guesses. World peace seems like a more likely goal than, say, allowing Satanism to become the dominant world religion or something sinister.

Although we cannot guess what kind of physical appearance they would like us to have, even babies have natural reactions to beautiful/ugly faces. Admittedly, they are human and not evolved like future humans/extraterrestrials may be, but cybernetic augmentation, plastic surgery, or being as safe as possible and not getting anything done (with the goal being to live a long, healthy life) seem like possible, if not probable, goals...

Perhaps each of us has our own goal. Perhaps the goal is to work together to achieve a main goal and we all have lesser goals as well...
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Do you think it’s run by an individual, an organization, a country, a planet, a company...?
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This is hard to answer since we don't know anything about who created the simulation, but I would think an individual or an organization are the most likely creators of the simulation, but as we don't know why the simulation was created, we won't know for sure.
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When it comes to simulation theories I always (regardless of what I may think) tell people that we are a social experiment on greed for an advanced race. The best way to break out of the simulation is to just be a good person ;)
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I agree with Revolutionary Moderate. If they have the ability to simulate our entire world, and each of us in it, then their very being and essence might be alien to us. It would be foolish to make any assumptions using some "educated guesses" which are really just based off our own hopes and biases. You're talking about "goals". What makes you think there are "goals"? And what makes you think humans are central to those "goals"? And even if we're to assume that both of those assumptions are true, you still wouldn't be able to rank one "goal" as being more likely or important than the other. Maybe making Satanism into the world religion is the goal. There's no way in Hell you'd know. Pun intended.
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How can you know what the simulation owners consider "attractive" or what goal they are pursuing?
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Furthermore, I can't see the owners of a cosmic simulation becoming emotionally attached to entities in the simulation, any more than you or I would be emotionally attached to NPCs in a video game.
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It’s still important to philosophize and adjust ourselves accordingly. Just because we do not know doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep trying to know. Educated guesses are still better than nothing, and they may help us avoid bad things by letting us know that, for example, a streak of bad luck may not be random. Since this is actually a possibility, we need to adjust our behavior and perhaps stop betting on black or doing whatever we’re doing.

Also, just because we don’t know how we will die doesn’t mean we can’t prepare for the possibility of death by playing it safe and not taking risks. We can calculate risks based on data, and, even though it may not be a strong correlation to our own seemingly random lives, it’s still better than having no information at all.
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It’s possible to get attached to people in various ways. They might see us as pets, as characters in a tv show that they may or may not want to die, slaves, romantic interests, or all of the above in various ways at various times. Furthermore, the “most interesting” people (in their eyes) may be wanted by multiple beings/entities, and there may even be long lines and raffle tickets involved. I mean, we just don’t know, but thinking about the possibilities given the ways the progress of a society can intersect with its ethics, technological advancements, resources or lack thereof, etc.

I bet Elon Musk would care.
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The first step will always beat the second one in my opinion! It is way better to become as attractive as possible since everything else will be much easier to include money and power. The second one you are on a permanent conditional freedom that can be revoked at any time. You would need some serious strategies to protect yourself in case things go south to stay free of the simulation in the second step.

There are scientific studies published about the first step that back it up as the easier step to breaking out of the simulation. Sure you can be in danger of some powerful entities that may get threatened by attractiveness BUT if this is a theorized egalitarian society there should be an equal half of powerful entities that will protect you no matter what.
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The best way to break out of the simulation is to just be a good person
So this is just another religion.
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