A borderless world – when and how?

Discuss the evolution of human culture, economics and politics in the decades and centuries ahead
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Re: A borderless world – when and how?

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I am writing about the "nation" and what it represents, so I can't say it is in decline. It is unclear because the world is divided into populations that tend to get stronger concerning national values and populations that try to emancipate. The tendency to be free is more accentuated in the US or some Europe countries. States like Eastern Europe are concentrated on becoming closed nations and not friendly-collaborative.
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wjfox wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:20 am
Doozer wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:04 am We are a tribalistic and territorial species.
Yeah, but why is that? It's usually down to resources/scarcity/economic concerns. A post-scarcity world, which we are ultimately heading towards, is a very different world. And furthermore – racial, cultural, and genetic intermingling will only increase over time, not decrease. This will be especially apparent when countries begin to experience population crashes due to declining fertility and need to relax their immigration policies. In the more distant future we'll also have lifelike androids and other new entities who'll be more influential and less concerned with tribalism.
I don't entirely agree with you. It seems to me that this may take such an amount of time that by the time society is ready for this, something will happen that will reduce the planet's population by a decent amount. I read about the problem of immigration and the struggle for civil rights, and you essentially claim that this can lead to a demographic crisis. Racial, cultural, and genetic mixing, as you put it, is inevitable, but not these points will lead us to the beginning of the end.
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wjfox wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:55 pm
Tadasuke wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:03 pm
I don't know about UK, Norway or Switzerland.
UK will break up into its constituent parts in the coming years/decades. Scotland will go first (~2025-2030), then Northern Ireland will unify with Ireland (circa 2035), probably followed by Wales (~2040), leaving England on its own. Scotland, NI, and Wales will all rejoin the EU quickly. However, I don't see England rejoining anytime soon. This country is just too right-wing, and fanatically anti-immigrant.
If the UK breaks up, I like to envision a Celtic Union consisting of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall and the Isle of Man taking its place.

Said union could be a good back-up plan for those countries in case the EU fails.
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Re: A borderless world – when and how?

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Doozer wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 8:31 pm
wjfox wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:55 pm
Tadasuke wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:03 pm
I don't know about UK, Norway or Switzerland.
UK will break up into its constituent parts in the coming years/decades. Scotland will go first (~2025-2030), then Northern Ireland will unify with Ireland (circa 2035), probably followed by Wales (~2040), leaving England on its own. Scotland, NI, and Wales will all rejoin the EU quickly. However, I don't see England rejoining anytime soon. This country is just too right-wing, and fanatically anti-immigrant.
If the UK breaks up, I like to envision a Celtic Union consisting of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall and the Isle of Man taking its place.

Said union could be a good back-up plan for those countries in case the EU fails.
I've changed my mind on the UK breaking up since I wrote that post. And I now think the UK will rejoin the EU by ~2035-40.
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If a borderless world were to become a reality, we've got a very long way to go. As I've said before, it's more likely that we'll see linguistically and culturally similar countries merge together first. For example, every Spanish-speaking country in the new world (i.e Mexico, Columbia and Argentina).

Another possibility could be a union of Turkic countries in Central Asia.
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