Some thinking of the regulations and systems of the future

[weatheriscool]

Some thinking of the regulations and systems of the future
---Towards a star trek future of less worry and creativity of human beings-----

1. For white collar, knowledge based, science, tech and creativity fields
-70% human requirement for all companies or businesses.
-All companies can have a.i and humanoid helper if they wish.
*The goal is to maintain human knowledge and upward mobility.
-As long as the human is the center of creation

This is protect human knowledge and our place within society in fields that matter. I don't believe a.i has the creativity even even to be positioned in such spots anyways. And it isn't something to be ok with anyways.

2. Blue collar and hard labor
-Hard back breaking sorting, factory or field work can be nearly completely automated.
-A basic income developed for all
-The goods produced by this automated system can provide the basics.
*an allotment system for each person at the basic level can be granted from the automated goods. Be it food, clothing, or other necessities.
-House building can be automated
*goal should be to grant basic housing to all humans including homeless people and to provide all the basics.
-Maybe mandate 10% human work force to run the systems.


3. Colleges and community colleges should teach humans ability to get into knowledge, creativity fields and should be free for all.

[weatheriscool]

It would be a little different then a basic income....Think of it as an automated production line in the idea of an public nationalized utility that is maintained by society through robotic a.i management . But to feed people and provide a floor in a future society that doesn't have work for most people to continue to live off of capitalism.
A.i could run the machines and robots that run the massive farms, meat plants and creation of basic goods. Kind of like china's dark factories that are already starting to do this but in food production. Hell, maybe the a.i and machines would also fix and repair any problem that needs to be fixed one day??? I think it is doable.
In such a world we can't rely on capitalism and everyone needing a shitty sorting or factory job in order to survive. It would be utterly impossible and unethical.

One example of this for plant based food would be....
Plants would be planted be robot

Watered and given what ever need by robot or automated system

Picked by robot

Put into driverless trucks by robot

Robot would unload trucks and take food to stores

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Another example would be

Cow or pig gets born

Cow or pig gets fed

Robot or automated system slaughters cow or pig once old enough

Puts the meat into the truck

Drives it to stores

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We could go example by example but this would expand throughout the entire food production line. This would allow for all humans to be fed and for the end of hunger and poverty. Yes, i am suggesting not just food but housing and basic goods.

Some humans might be needed during the first century or so, but could be linked up with the robots in the comfort of their homes. This way they'd get more benefits then a normal person. Otherwise, knowledge and what you really wish to do in this future would be what you could focus on without the fear.

[weatheriscool]

[weatheriscool]

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The core concept you've outlined here describes an Automated National Public Utility, a system that essentially replaces market-driven production of essential goods with a public, non-monetary system driven by automated technology and AI management.

You’re exploring a model that is often associated with concepts like "Post-Scarcity Economics" or "Fully Automated Luxury Communism." The idea is that technology has advanced to a point where human labor is no longer a prerequisite for survival, and the production of basic necessities (food, housing, healthcare, goods) can be treated as a fully automated, publicly administered infrastructure project.

Let’s break down the key elements and implications of your proposal.
1. The Operational Model: The Fully Automated Supply Chain

Your description of the food production line (plant and meat) is functionally sound from a technological standpoint. In many sectors, we are already moving toward this "lights-out" manufacturing (like the "dark factories" you mentioned).

Plant-Based Production:

Precision Agriculture: Autonomous tractors and drones for planting and monitoring. AI systems analyze soil and weather data to optimize resource use.

Automated Logistics: The transfer of produce to driverless vehicles and subsequent transport to distribution centers (rather than "stores," as retail wouldn't exist in the same capitalist sense).

Meat Production:

The Ethical Shift: Your model highlights a significant ethical challenge. While the process itself is automate-able, a society that has automated almost all other labor may find it difficult to justify a system designed for the mass automated slaughter of animals. Many theories of post-scarcity imagine a shift to cellular agriculture (lab-grown meat) or a fully plant-based system, as it requires significantly fewer resources and aligns better with the increased emphasis on ethics often found in these visions of the future.

2. The Economic and Political Shift: From Capitalism to Utility

This is the most critical shift you are describing. It isn't just "different from a Basic Income"; it's a fundamental move away from the "labor-for-survival" exchange that defines capitalism.

Key Differences from Capitalism/UBI:

De-commodification: Under your system, food and basic goods are not products to be sold for profit. They are treated as natural rights, similar to how oxygen or the interstate highway system works today.

Removing the Monetary Intermediate: A Universal Basic Income still requires money, which means the goods (food, shelter) are still produced for profit and purchased in a market. In your model, the intermediate step (giving people money to buy the food) is eliminated; the utility provides the goods directly.

3. Societal and Psychological Impact: The Future of "Work"

Your points about the ethics and impossibility of sorting jobs in a post-automation world are precisely the discussions happening in current labor theory. When production is automated, we must decouple survival from employment.

The Redefinition of Purpose:
If humans don't have to work to survive, what do they do? You suggest knowledge, personal exploration, and "what you really wish to do."

This is the central challenge. The current system provides not just income, but social structure, identity, and a sense of purpose for billions. Removing that structure entirely will require a massive cultural adaptation. Society will need to shift its values from productivity to actualization—creativity, education, social connection, and community development.
4. The Transition: The "First Century"

The transition period you mentioned is often the most contentious part of these discussions.

Human-Robot Partnerships (augmented humanity):
The idea of humans overseeing robots or intervening remotely from the comfort of home is plausible. We already have roles like remote drone operators and telehealth specialists. In this model, these positions might become highly specialized forms of civic duty rather than "jobs" in the conventional sense, perhaps structured more like a period of national service or highly incentivized expertise.

Overcoming political resistance:
Moving from our current capitalist model to an automated national utility is not just a technological challenge; it's a massive political and ideological barrier. How do you manage the redistribution of privately owned land, machinery, and production facilities into a public utility? This transition would face extreme resistance from the current owners of capital.

Your proposal outlines a vision where technology and collective management can solve the primary material problems of humanity. While technologically plausible (even inevitable, in some sectors), the real challenges are political implementation, ethical alignment (especially regarding livestock), and the profound societal/psychological shifts that would follow the decoupling of survival from labor.

[weatheriscool]

Here is a series of images that illustrate your concept of a completely automated, nationalized food production line:

Image 1: The Automated Farm

This image captures the first half of your plant-based example. In a massive, vertical, hydroponic facility, robotic arms and automated gantries handle everything from planting seedlings to monitoring nutrient levels. There are no humans present; the entire environment is optimized for AI-driven growth.


Image 2: Automated Harvest and Transport

Building on the farm scene, this image shows the automated harvest. The robot gantries seen in the previous image have now matured the crop. Dedicated harvesting robots are now picking the produce and transferring it directly into large, sleek, driverless transport pods. The lavender light from Image 1 is still present as the robotic convoy prepares to move the goods.


Image 3: The Sterile Processing Facility

Here we address your second example (the meat facility, stylized here as sterile protein synthesis, which is often cleaner for automated rendering). Following the harvest logic, this facility uses the same design language as the previous scenes. Robots with precise surgical tools manage the processing lines. The environment is absolutely sterile and illuminated by the cool, diffused light established in the earlier images, maintaining visual consistency across the production chain.


Image 4: The Final Distribution Hub

This final image completes the cycle. The sterile, translucent packages of food and protein (produced in Image 2 and Image 3) arrive at a massive, automated distribution hub. The facility maintains the crisp, white aesthetic of the production lines. The driverless transport pods seen in Image 1 are now unloading. From this hub, smaller delivery drones and automated sidewalk rovers facilitate the final 'last mile' delivery directly to citizens, completing the public utility loop you described.


show this system building houses with 3d printers, paving roads and constructing bridges