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What if dinosaurs had evolved intelligence? – The Dinosauroid

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:22 am
by wjfox

Re: What if dinosaurs had evolved intelligence? – The Dinosauroid

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:10 pm
by Yuli Ban
People always ask "what if dinosaurs became intelligent?"

The answer is: they did.
Corvids. Crows!

Brainiacs, not birdbrains: Crows possess higher intelligence long thought a primarily human attribute
Whether crows, ravens, and other “corvids” are making multipart tools like hooked sticks to reach grubs, solving geometry puzzles made famous by Aesop, or nudging a clueless hedgehog across a highway before it becomes roadkill, they have long impressed scientists with their intelligence and creativity.

Now the birds can add one more feather to their brainiac claims: Research unveiled on Thursday in Science finds that crows know what they know and can ponder the content of their own minds, a manifestation of higher intelligence and analytical thought long believed the sole province of humans and a few other higher mammals.

A second study, also in Science, looked in unprecedented detail at the neuroanatomy of pigeons and barn owls, finding hints to the basis of their intelligence that likely applies to corvids’, too.

“Together, the two papers show that intelligence/consciousness are grounded in connectivity and activity patterns of neurons” in the most neuron-dense part of the bird brain, called the pallium, neurobiologist Suzana Herculano-Houzel of Vanderbilt University, who wrote an analysis of the studies for Science, told STAT. “Brains can appear diverse, and at the same time share profound similarities. The extent to which similar properties present themselves might be simply a matter of scale: how many neurons are available to work.”
And let's not forget that crows can talk and seem to possess some very limited level of sapience and culture.



If crows can do it, theoretically the non-avian dinosaurs of 65+ million years ago probably could too and we'd never know. So we just have to settle for the modern avian dinosaur equivalents. They may not look like the reptilian grays we wanted, but given enough time and environmental pressure...

Re: What if dinosaurs had evolved intelligence? – The Dinosauroid

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:18 pm
by raklian
What if aliens are actually evolved dinosaurs capable of multidimensional travel who jumped from an alternate future timeline in which they weren't wiped out by the asteroid 65 million years ago? Hmm...

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Re: What if dinosaurs had evolved intelligence? – The Dinosauroid

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:25 pm
by Yuli Ban
raklian wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:18 pm What if aliens are actually evolved dinosaurs capable of multidimensional travel who jumped from an alternate future timeline in which they weren't wiped out by the asteroid 65 million years ago? Hmm...

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What if the aliens are actually evolved dinosaurs who achieved the Singularity 65 million years ago and uplifted themselves, and the ones who decided to not join them were like the Amish who then evolved into modern birds? And the asteroid was something unrelated entirely to their "extinction"
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