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Related to science is a concept I introduced in my
I Am Just Joking Thread. Because I was just joking, I wasn’t concerned about getting definitions precisely correct. The concept was that of the
nagual
noun
na·gual
nəˈ(g)wäl
variants or less commonly nahual
nəˈ(h)wäl
pluralnaguals
-älz
or naguales
-äˌlās
also nahuals
a
: a personal guardian spirit or protective alter ego assumed by various Middle American Indians to reside in an animal or less frequently in some other embodiment compare HUACA
b
: the animal double or guardian itself
Source:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictio ... %20itself
Here was my introduction the concept, as well as some other related concepts. As I say, it did not really have an identical match to the formal definition presented above.
There are three or four basic fields of influence over day-to-day life:
1.That which is known and readily understood by those open to receiving knowledge.
2. That which is currently unknown, but which may become known in the future through scientific investigation.
3. That which is currently unknown and will probably never be known. In turn this falls in to two categories:
a. That which is known to be unknown.
b. That which is so far out of sight and mind that it is not even known to be unknown, and yet somehow affects our lives.
Of the three, the nagual straddles the second and the third. It is both the subject of scientific inquiry, but also the source of mystery and possibly even great danger. The realm of unintended consequences is definitely related to the nagual. Those who fear the nagual respect the powerful impact unintended consequences may have upon…society. Nagual is the proper subject matter of study and speculation by both scientists and shamans. Still, their methods of inquiry can be radically different.
If I am not mistaken the word
nagual actually traces its origins to the Southwestern United States and Mexico. It seems to be a word common to the Yaqui, as well as natives of central and perhaps even southern Mexico. (By sheer coincidence, I have ancestors who can be traced to natives of the Southwest, although probably not to the Yaqui. The Southwest takes in a lot of territory.)
Western equivalents might include witches and warlocks. In the West, the image of an old women stirring a caldron is often associated with the concept “witch.” Presumably, such witches often experimented with things they found in the world much like the manner in which modern day chemists conduct experiments in the world.
Also a root of the scientific method was the question of whether the earth revolved around the sun. An affirmative response was treated by medieval society as somewhat heretical. A sort of compromise was proposed by church authorities that the idea could be explored as an idea, and not as an established fact. Much like saying that astronomers could proceed with exploring this idea as long as they did not insist upon its absolute validity.
Related to how the scientific method may (or may not) be related to the war in the Ukraine:
ibm9000 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:05 am
So, my point has been taken?
Your point is wrong.
What is the theory that you are defending? I haven't seen your hipotesis anywhere.
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Note that I am discussing a process and not a conclusion, and therefore no need to put forth a full-fledged theory. As for a hypothesis, I am getting to that.
Don't mourn, organize.
-Joe Hill