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The US norms the supreme court targeted this term all came from the same era
Sun 3 Jul 2022

The supreme court, thank heaven, finally adjourned on Thursday, after a week of decisions that blew up much of the framework of American policy and politics. And a key thing to notice about that assault on American norms was how many of their targets were adopted in a few short years in the 1960s and 1970s.

Roe v Wade, of course, dates to 1973, the fruit of many year’s work by committed feminists. Thursday’s attack on the ability of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to regulate greenhouse gases guts the Clean Air Act, which in its strong form dates from 1970 – indeed, both that law and the EPA itself were the result of the first Earth Day protests in April of that year, which drew 20 million Americans (10% of the country’s population in those days) into the streets demanding action. Even firearms sanity, badly weakened once more in last week’s decision on concealed carry permits, reached its zenith in 1968 with the passage of the Gun Control Act in response to the assassinations of that turbulent year.

It’s pretty clear that some on the high court have other gains from that era in their sights: Justice Clarence Thomas singled out the 1960s protections for contraception, and the drive for equal rights for LGBTQ+ people that broke into the open at the Stonewall protests in 1969. And the court and conservative legislatures have worked steadily to undermine the protections of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, restricting the franchise that the civil rights movement had once worked so powerfully to extend.

This is an attack, in other words, on the epic social, political and cultural transformations of that remarkable period (a stretch of years that should remind us that with committed effort change really can come fast). We pay particular attention to those dates because, at Third Act, we organize the people who helped create that era. Our colleagues include heroes like Heather Booth, who went south in 1964’s Freedom Summer and then went on to form Citizen Action for local organizing across America, or Sam Brown, who coordinated 1969’s massive anti-war moratorium before a career in public service that included working with John Lewis to run Vista and the Peace Corps. Many others of our supporters – who are in their 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s – played less prominent roles, but all of them bore witness to these transformations. And now they watch with some combination of sorrow, anger and incredulity as they are washed away.

The incredulity stems from the fact that they are universally popular. Big majorities favor much more government action to protect the environment; by margins of 2-1 Americans want Roe’s abortion protections left intact, and even more lopsided margins want more gun control, not less. We won the hearts and minds of public opinion, but we’re now decisively losing in the arena of public policy.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... roe-v-wade

Could the US Supreme Court now undermind bills before 1972 such as above.
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As Trump’s star wanes, another rises: could Ron DeSantis be the new Maga bearer?
Sun 3 Jul 2022

With the January 6 hearings chipping away at the former president’s image, the Republican Florida governor is quietly working to turn the tide in his favor

He was the most powerful man in the world, the possessor of the nuclear codes. Yet he behaved like a deranged manchild who threw temper tantrums and food against the wall.

That was the tragicomic story told to America last Tuesday at a congressional hearing that had even seasoned Donald Trump watchers lifting their jaws off the floor and speculating that his political career might finally be over.

In two seismic hours in Washington, Cassidy Hutchinson, a 25-year-old former White House aide, told the panel investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol that the former president had effectively gone haywire.

She described how Trump knew a mob of his supporters had armed itself with rifles, yet he asked for metal detectors to be removed. She also recounted how his desire to lead them to the Capitol caused a physical altercation with the Secret Service, and how in a fit of rage he threw his lunch against a White House wall, staining it with tomato ketchup.
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The Supreme Court’s Shock-and-Awe Judicial Coup
by Naomi Klein
June 30, 2022

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(Intercept) THIS IS IT. The moment for President Joe Biden and Congress to challenge the underlying legitimacy of the U.S. Supreme Court and advance an aggressive climate action agenda. There will be no better moment to take this stand for a transformed court, nor a more fateful one. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is right: “We need to reform or do away with the whole thing, for the sake of the planet.”

Over the last few days, we have witnessed a shock-and-awe judicial coup, from stripping people of the right to terminate pregnancies (Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization), to weakening the sovereign right of Indigenous tribes to enforce the law on their lands (Oklahoma v. Castro-Huerta), to interfering with the rights of states to regulate the carrying of firearms (New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen), to enabling a return to Christian prayer in public schools (Kennedy v. Bremerton School District).

And now this: a decision that eviscerates the Environmental Protection Agency’s power to regulate a major source of the carbon emissions destabilizing our planet. The EPA can still regulate CO2, but its capacity to regulate under the Clear Air Act is significantly reduced. It represents the culmination, as my colleague Sharon Lerner reports, of decades of “plotting against environmental regulations” by Koch Industries, and as The Lever has reported, this entire court has been shaped by the dark-money-bankrolled Judicial Crisis Network, which is is surely gearing up to toast the bountiful return on their patient investments this July 4 weekend.

History contains crossroads when a single set of decisions can alter the trajectory of a people — or even a planet. The Biden administration’s response to the Supreme Court’s 6-3 EPA ruling, hot on the heels of the other outrageous power grabs, is a moment like that. No juncture offers greater opportunity for courageous, transformational leadership, should such a thing be on offer anywhere in Washington, D.C.
Read more here: https://theintercept.com/2022/06/30/su ... epa-coup/

Edit: Writing on more or less this same theme with important detail added is Bill McKibben: https://www.commondreams.org/views/202 ... -backlash
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Time_Traveller wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:39 pm As Trump’s star wanes, another rises: could Ron DeSantis be the new Maga bearer?
Sun 3 Jul 2022

With the January 6 hearings chipping away at the former president’s image...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -candidate
Her is a legal analysis from an anti-Trump conservative commentator on Trump's legal vulnerabilities:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ds/661434/
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Time_Traveller wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:39 pm As Trump’s star wanes, another rises: could Ron DeSantis be the new Maga bearer?
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -candidate
Incredibly, De Santis may very well be worse than Trump:

I’m Suing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for Attacks on Free Speech, Press
by Thomas Kennedy
June 29, 2022

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(Latino Rebels) MIAMI — The First Amendment has protected advocacy journalism in America since the founding of this country. Unfortunately for press freedom, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has stomped on that tradition by declaring his administration to be government regulators of journalism, similar to authoritarians in places like Venezuela or Cuba.

As a critic of the governor, I have personally gotten a taste of DeSantis’ tinpot authoritarianism.

In July 2020, my activism made national news when I confronted Florida’s governor on what I consider to be his disastrous handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, along with his misleading the public about the impact of the virus. The Sunshine State has a staggering death toll of over 75,000 people.

Due to my political views and activities, the state’s largest law enforcement agency, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE), opened a criminal intelligence case against me without a criminal predicate. That’s when they started surveilling my social media while sharing my name, photo, and vehicle information with other police agencies in the state, in addition to other personal information.

The surveillance document from FDLE states that “the below individual has no history of violence” when referring to me.
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Why Do We Coddle Conservatives?
by Daniel Cubas
June 28, 2022

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(Mano) Here’s how sensitive those liberal snowflakes are…

Some guy in California got offended over a definition in Merriam-Webster’s dictionary. How absurd. They’re just words, you wimpy, tree-hugging…

Oh, wait. It wasn’t a liberal. It was a right-wing white man. And he wasn’t so much “offended” as “screaming death threats.”

The guy was furious over Merriam-Webster’s entry on gender, and in his transphobic zeal, he sent multiple intimidating messages to the publisher and said the dictionary’s creators “should be hunted down and shot.”

Now, if a progressive had complained about a dictionary definition, we would hear diatribes about cancel culture and hypersensitivity. Instead, an easily riled conservative promises violence, and it’s all whatevs.
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caltrek wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:03 pm Why Do We Coddle Conservatives?
by Daniel Cubas
June 28, 2022

Introduction:
(Mano) Here’s how sensitive those liberal snowflakes are…

Some guy in California got offended over a definition in Merriam-Webster’s dictionary. How absurd. They’re just words, you wimpy, tree-hugging…

Oh, wait. It wasn’t a liberal. It was a right-wing white man. And he wasn’t so much “offended” as “screaming death threats.”

The guy was furious over Merriam-Webster’s entry on gender, and in his transphobic zeal, he sent multiple intimidating messages to the publisher and said the dictionary’s creators “should be hunted down and shot.”

Now, if a progressive had complained about a dictionary definition, we would hear diatribes about cancel culture and hypersensitivity. Instead, an easily riled conservative promises violence, and it’s all whatevs.
Read more here: https://manomagazine.com/coddleconservatives/
Why do we cuddle liberals? You know the fuckers that burn down city blocks, loot stores and shut down economies for years at a time only to cause historic inflation?. I can be partisan too. There's only man and women. Anyone that thinks otherwise is mentally insane and to point that out is just a fact. Science isn't a snowflake thing. It is basic biology. I am going to balance this board out and if wjfox doesn't like it and wants only one value point then he can do what he thinks is right.
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weatheriscool wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:07 pm
caltrek wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:03 pm Why Do We Coddle Conservatives?
by Daniel Cubas
June 28, 2022

Introduction:
(Mano) Here’s how sensitive those liberal snowflakes are…

Some guy in California got offended over a definition in Merriam-Webster’s dictionary. How absurd. They’re just words, you wimpy, tree-hugging…

Oh, wait. It wasn’t a liberal. It was a right-wing white man. And he wasn’t so much “offended” as “screaming death threats.”

The guy was furious over Merriam-Webster’s entry on gender, and in his transphobic zeal, he sent multiple intimidating messages to the publisher and said the dictionary’s creators “should be hunted down and shot.”

Now, if a progressive had complained about a dictionary definition, we would hear diatribes about cancel culture and hypersensitivity. Instead, an easily riled conservative promises violence, and it’s all whatevs.
Read more here: https://manomagazine.com/coddleconservatives/
Why do we cuddle liberals? You know the fuckers that burn down city blocks, loot stores and shut down economies for years at a time only to cause historic inflation?. I can be partisan too. There's only man and women. Anyone that thinks otherwise is mentally insane and to point that out is just a fact. Science isn't a snowflake thing. It is basic biology. I am going to balance this board out and if wjfox doesn't like it and wants only one value point then he can do what he thinks is right.
Honestly, I think it would be a good thing to get more republicans and conservatives into science and education. It would allow for healing and real debate of ideas. The left is stuck in its narrow lane bs that it is destroying this country and making life hell on good people. We need to force society more towards logical and thought out concepts instead of idiocy.
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weatheriscool wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:07 pm
caltrek wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:03 pm Why Do We Coddle Conservatives?
by Daniel Cubas
June 28, 2022

Introduction:
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Read more here: https://manomagazine.com/coddleconservatives/
Why do we cuddle liberals? You know the fuckers that burn down city blocks, loot stores and shut down economies for years at a time only to cause historic inflation?. I can be partisan too. There's only man and women. Anyone that thinks otherwise is mentally insane and to point that out is just a fact. Science isn't a snowflake thing. It is basic biology. I am going to balance this board out and if wjfox doesn't like it and wants only one value point then he can do what he thinks is right.
Liberals don't "burn down city blocks" and "loot stores." Criminals do that. Liberals may explain the greivances that fuel such anger, but that is far different than encouraging that anger.

As to "shutting down the economies" this completely ignores the problem being faced - a pandemic that would have done even more to "shut down" the economy.

The boundaries between gender are not as clear cut as you would like to believe. Accusing those who understand that biological reality as being "mentally insane" is hardly being open minded and "balanced."
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weatheriscool wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:16 pm
weatheriscool wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:07 pm
caltrek wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:03 pm ...
Read more here: https://manomagazine.com/coddleconservatives/
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Honestly, I think it would be a good thing to get more republicans and conservatives into science and education. It would allow for healing and real debate of ideas. The left is stuck in its narrow lane bs that it is destroying this country and making life hell on good people. We need to force society more towards logical and thought out concepts instead of idiocy.
Oh, I know plenty of Republicans and conservatives who are well versed in science and education. Problem is their emotional biases and libertarian ideologies foul up their critical thinking mechanisms. They can apply science as in the way that technicians apply science, yet they seem incapable of carrying that over into the social sciences. Economics being a partial exception, where the more technical use for the making of profit is preferred to an honest and just understanding of society.
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The Supreme Court’s EPA Decision Heralds a Broad Assault on Democracy
by Adam Sobel
July 1, 2022

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(The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists) “The Court appoints itself — instead of Congress or the expert agency — the decision maker on climate policy. I cannot think of many things more frightening.” Justice Elena Kagan wrote that, in her dissent from the Supreme Court majority’s ruling in West Virginia v Environmental Protection Agency. I agree—but I can easily think of a few things that are about equally frightening. Namely, the Supreme Court decisions that immediately preceded it, and the ones that are likely to come soon after.

In the EPA ruling, the court’s majority argued that the Clean Air Act didn’t give the EPA the authority to make broad regulations limiting greenhouse gas emissions from power plants. Only Congress has that power, they argued. The court acknowledged that modern life is sufficiently complex that the historical practice, in which Congress makes laws expressing broad intent and federal agencies work out the details required to implement them, is to some extent necessary in our complex modern age but ruled that it isn’t enough in the case of “major questions.” This is apparently a new legal theory, just invented to justify the court’s decision.

If one wants to see an upside, the ruling is not as broad as those of us who want a functioning government had feared. Because it affects only a specific EPA rule, it doesn’t yet invalidate the entire “administrative state” that, in practice, allows the United States to exist as a modern country, and that gives citizens some protection from corporate power.

But the ruling puts everyone on notice. Anything any federal agency does that the new far-right majority on the court doesn’t like can apparently be declared a “major question,” so that no action can be taken by the agency unless Congress explicitly approves the specific rule in question—even when (as in the case of the Clean Air Act) Congress has already instructed the Agency to implement a law with clear intent.
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For Supreme Court Watchers, Judicial Restraint Has Left the Building
by Kelsey Reichmann
July 6, 2022

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WASHINGTON (Courthouse News) — The conservative majority of the Supreme Court is making broad changes to American law on a tight timeline in moves that are giving the public, and even several justices, pause.

“I would call the majority restless,” Lawrence Gostin, faculty director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law and Georgetown Law, said in a phone interview. “It’s not only wanting to have a very firm conservative stamp on the court, but it is impatient and won’t wait for the right cases to do that and won’t use an incremental approach.”

Just a week after the court threw out New York’s concealed-carry restrictions last month, it voted 6-3 to limit the Environmental Protection Agency’s ability to regulate pollutants that contribute to climate change. While doing so, the majority made it a point to endorse a controversial doctrine that hamstrings the authority of the administrative state. Experts were critical of this EPA decision both because of its breadth and because of its basis on an outdated regulation the government has no intention of using again
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“The Court’s docket is discretionary, and because no one is now subject to the Clean Power Plan’s terms, there was no reason to reach out to decide this case,” Justice Elena Kagan wrote in dissent to the EPA ruling.

Kagan noted that, not only was there no in-use regulation for the court to rule on in the case, but the government was set to release an updated regulation in just weeks.

“The Court today issues what is really an advisory opinion on the proper scope of the new rule EPA is considering,” Kagan wrote. “That new rule will be subject anyway to immediate, pre-enforcement judicial review. But this Court could not wait — even to see what the new rule says — to constrain EPA’s efforts to address climate change.”
The article further makes comments on the overruling of Roe v Wade.

Read more here: https://www.courthousenews.com/for-sco ... building/
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Trust In News Collapses to Historic Low
by Sara Fischer
July 8, 2022

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(Axios) Americans' confidence in newspapers and television news has plummeted to an all-time low, according to the latest annual Gallup survey of trust in U.S. institutions.

Why it matters: The erosion of trust in media is one of the most significant signs of deepening polarization in America.

• Political party affiliation has become the primary driver of opinions about the media's trustworthiness, as Gallup has noted.

• A 2021 poll from Pew Research Center found that Republicans are far less likely to trust media sources that are considered "mainstream."
Details: Television news is today considered the second-least trusted institution in the country, following Congress, according to the poll.
Read more here: https://www.axios.com/2022/07/08/news ... isanship
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caltrek wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:42 pm Trust In News Collapses to Historic Low
by Sara Fischer
July 8, 2022

Introduction:
(Axios) Americans' confidence in newspapers and television news has plummeted to an all-time low, according to the latest annual Gallup survey of trust in U.S. institutions.

Why it matters: The erosion of trust in media is one of the most significant signs of deepening polarization in America.

• Political party affiliation has become the primary driver of opinions about the media's trustworthiness, as Gallup has noted.

• A 2021 poll from Pew Research Center found that Republicans are far less likely to trust media sources that are considered "mainstream."
Details: Television news is today considered the second-least trusted institution in the country, following Congress, according to the poll.
Read more here: https://www.axios.com/2022/07/08/news ... isanship
Well, no shit Caltrek. The news sadly is so partisan that it literally makes shit up and when people find out that what they're being fed is pure horseshit they tend to lose trust in it. It doesn't fly with the majority of society anymore. Maybe the media should bring back the old standard of leaving politics and belief at the door and following a method of facts,evidence and data.

Lets be honest....Leaving out the reality that the bad guy has a gun out of the story to make the bad guy look like the victim is very bad for our society.
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weatheriscool wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:16 pm Honestly, I think it would be a good thing to get more republicans and conservatives into science and education. It would allow for healing and real debate of ideas.
You mean like how they've been given the data regarding evolution and climate change? So tell me, just how's that worked out so far? What's there left to "debate" exactly? Regarding education, which they love to defund whenever the chance arises or use to push outdated concepts like creationism? Or lets just further handwave the First Nations genocide and how America was truly founded why don't we?
The left is stuck in its narrow lane bs that it is destroying this country and making life hell on good people. We need to force society more towards logical and thought out concepts instead of idiocy.
I somehow don't think turning back the clock on a person's civil rights nor destroying what's currently our only home in the galaxy is quite logical, but that's just me. As far as burning buldings are concerned, funny thing about that is they can always be rebuilt. The environment, on the other hand, cannot. I don't support that style of violence, but the priorities here seem a bit skewed as to what's exactly "destroying" America.
Science isn't a snowflake thing.
And yet the religious right are so easily triggered by basic data procurred via the scientific method.

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weatheriscool wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:16 pm
Honestly, I think it would be a good thing to get more republicans and conservatives into science and education.
How do you propose this be done?

Wouldn't the separation of church and state be a good start? Instead of, for example, removing classroom textbooks on evolution and replacing them with literal creationism, as some states have attempted.

And wouldn't it be a good idea to prevent the corrupting influence of vested financial interests in education – such as learning materials on the environment sponsored and published by fossil fuel interests:

https://globalreports.columbia.edu/books/miseducation/
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You don't even need to go to any special effort to "get" more conservatives into science and education - many already are. All you need to do is remove any systems of censorship or politically motivated reward, where these can be found. When that happens, you'll naturally find people of all different viewpoints and persuasions sharing and debating their ideas.
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joe00uk wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:26 pm
systems of censorship or politically motivated reward
Examples?
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wjfox wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:56 pm
joe00uk wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:26 pm
systems of censorship or politically motivated reward
Examples?
Lots of examples come up with just one quick google search of "censorship in science" or "politicisation of science", but here's the first article I found which contains a few helpful examples.
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Does this view on censoship also extend to how the U.S. right also likes to censor/ban books it doesn't like? Or ideologies it claims are "socialistic" in nature? I don't mind if someone is principled enough on all fronts regarding censorship, as they are at least being honest, but the number in this country doesn't appear to be that high. Maybe it's different in the U.K. due to the multi-party system, which at least allows for a greater range of critical thinking.

Don't believe that fundamentalism is also as big of an issue there, either, but I could be wrong. Only bring that up bc it might be slightly different for @Joe and @Wjfox. To use another example, if we attempted to do what Italy did regarding compulsory teaching climate change in schools, in good ole America that would be regarded as some politically motivated brainwashing attempted. It's the same with UHS, even though it's practiced in neighboring countries such as Canada, and the statistical data proves its superiority in health outcomes when compared to our archaic system, people will still fall for the same talking points and their own general ignorance.

Really, at this point, I just don't see what much could be done anymore.
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