ibm9000 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:35 am
Who is white washing what history?
Sorry, on what page did you started reading this thread?
Again, the importance of counting the number of corpses.
Are you suggesting that there is an absolute moral equivalence between killing one person and killing a million persons? Even when that one person is in the process of engaging in mass murder, and that the million are largely innocent civilians?
If objections to that logic constitutes "white washing" then we must agree to disagree.
What sounds like white washing to me is to deny that the United States was ever attacked by Al Qaeda on 9/11.
What next? Perhaps that the United States was not attacked by the Japanese government at Pearl Harbor? That the holocaust never took place? That the genocidal events of the Holodomor never took place?
Yes, the United States government under George W. Bush lied about WMD in Iraq. Which is why I opposed that invasion. I also voted twice for political opponents of Bush when he ran for president. Bush was a horrible president, and I am glad that he retired from office fourteen years ago. I am also grateful that journalist organs such as
The Nation pointed out that the government was lying in advance of that invasion. Often friendly to Russia,
The Nation has condemned Russia's invasion of the Ukraine. So, my sources of information are not confined to handouts from the U.S. government. There are other observers on the scene. If they conclude that the Ukrainian government is using civilians as human shields, then that government should be called out on that and criticized for that action.
Criticizing from a place of denial and from a place of white washing history only undermines your argument.
Leaders change. Policies change. Situations change.
This thread is about the war in the Ukraine. Yet you seem obsessed with talking about just about anything but that war. Sometimes in an effort that looks very much like a white washing of history. If not white washing, then at least denial and a profound and willful ignorance of what is going on. Failing to count the corpses is a form of such denialism. If you want to oppose support for the Ukraine for whatever reason. Fine, go ahead and do so. But please, let us not deny the basic facts. Russia launched and unprovoked act of aggression upon the Ukraine. Civilian populations have apparently been targeted in that invasion. In a way that goes beyond collateral damage while targeting military targets.
In my opinion, at least, Putin is proceeding with genocidal policies toward the Ukraine, posing an existential threat to Ukrainians. Again, if you disagree with that opinion, or somehow thinks it constitutes white washing, then we must agree to disagree.