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Positives of 4 more years of Trump on Tech and science? Honestly as negative as the realities are life goes on and we must try to look at the brighter side of things.

I'd say space force will likely be funded better and as much as you may not like the military it certainly gets funded. This could have some very good and positive side effects for space travel and the infrastructure to go to the moon, mars and beyond. An example is our navy that can go anywhere in the world. Imagine a space force that has 3-4 times the funding of nasa? Imagine in 20 years it has real space ships that are capable of taken on chinese ships, indian ships or russian ships. You think this won't advance space travel? War is one of the main advancers of tech in our species history.

Next is spacex and private space flight. I think in someways Elon is right. Of course, in the matter that he wants to do things fast and have his way without being stopped by regulation and the government. You aint getting to 10, 50 or 500 star ship launches per year without being favored and you aint getting to mars without a government that says ok...Do it!!! You think Spain stopped Columbus or gave a damn about the life of the people hitting the waves back 700 years ago? f*ck no. It was about glory and exploration. One of the reasons why I respect elon is he has that and if we want to go to mars and build cities outside of our planet we sure as hell need that attitude. Trump is going to side with him.

A.i? I doubt Trump wants to regulate it and will just let businesses including elon do what they wish. We could see faster development of the tech under Trump as the world won't pussy out and over regulate it.

Robotics? Same thing as A.i! Big business is going to take robotics and mate it with A.i! Trump like the gilded age presidents is just going to say ok! You make money and grant his approval. I suspect a faster advancement of robotics these next 4 years.

Driverless cars? If the goal is deregulation and getting government out of the process? Why couldn't such advancements speed up this?

Solar? Lets be honest...Solar doesn't need fucking government anymore. IT is the cheapest form of energy! If the government doesn't do anything I suspect entire deserts will be quickly covered in solar these past 4 years. National parks!!! Imagine yellow stone with 50 gw of solar? Trump doesn't give a shit. It will part of energy independence.

I do suspect a moralize religious attitude will hurt medical advancements badly as it relies a lot on government funding to advance unlike space travel, robotics and a.i. But hopefully china, india and europe will take up the slack?

SpaceX will certainly do well, and Musk will be exonerated of any shady business dealings or other illegal activities.

Artemis 3 should hopefully get the funding it needs, and put humans back on the Moon in 2027-28.

I see today that solar stocks have already begun to tank, as the IRA will almost certainly be repealed. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of tax levied on renewables to make them less competitive with fossil fuels.

Trump also wants to roll back the CHIPS act, which would be catastrophic for semiconductor manufacturing and general computing tech.

Deregulation of AI isn't something to be celebrated. It could pose catastrophic risks further down the line. We should be handling this technology with the same care as nuclear weapons.

Cultured meat is going to be banned in most states, if not at the federal level.

We'll see the dumbification of medical science, as RFK Jnr will be in charge, although he seems to be a fan of stem cells.

^^^I agree with most of this. One thing I would hesitate to agree upon is the CHIPS act. It is too much about promoting capacity of U.S. firms, which is a theme of the Trump campaign. More likely, Trump will simply claim credit for its benefits. Of course, like everything else, it will be subject to directly affected businesses showing proper deference to Trump and his administration. So, I suppose, it might be victim to kleptocratic urges that override declared policy objectives. It might be amended for Trump to more easily put his stamp on its benefits, but that would not equal being repealed.

Driverless cars? If the goal is deregulation and getting government out of the process? Why couldn't such advancements speed up this?

Because deregulation could result in more deaths on the roads which might actually slow down its development as state and local governments fear its deployment. Historically, regulations in the United States have come at the request of target industries who feared loss of business due to reputational damage of not having regulations in place. Alternatively, they may have also feared even stricter regulations coming down the pike as unaddressed problems festered.

Elon argues that a Trump presidency makes mars more likely and makes his plans of cities on mars more likely. What do you think?

weatheriscool wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:13 pm Elon argues that a Trump presidency makes mars more likely and makes his plans of cities on mars more likely. What do you think?

I suspect he thinks a de-toothed FAA and EPA under a Trump Administration will accelerate the cadence of Starship launches he wants to occur.

But the problem is 4 years is not long enough to overcome the hurdles of the ingrained bureaucracy to implement the required regulatory and policy changes at the agency level to make much of a difference. If another Republican administration were to follow after Trump, perhaps.

Also a Mars city is pointless at this stage

firestar464 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:36 am Also a Mars city is pointless at this stage

The reason I agree with you is that we shouldn't talk about colonizing other planets until we’ve truly conquered our own. At the moment, it seems like we’re more focused on destroying our planet. That said, since Trump is now president, I feel like Elon will have almost full reign to do whatever he wants. I wouldn’t be surprised if Elon’s stock grows by a significant margin