Ukraine War Watch Thread

[Xyls]

I don't have much problem with a short-term, temporary increase in oil production to ease this year's inflation. But the Keystone pipeline and other such infrastructure is a medium to longer-term commitment, with a gigantic carbon footprint. Keystone specifically has already been described by scientists as "game over" for the climate.

Here's the thing with this though. Stopping a pipeline does not stop production. The Canadian government just loads it up on trains which uses more fuel to transport and just ends up increasing the carbon footprint of the oil once it is burned anyways. You need solutions that lower demand, not try to artificially restrict supply with high prices which will eventually cause a backlash and cause people to elect very anti-environment people...

[Xyls]

Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said he has "cooled down regarding the question of a NATO membership for his country", which was a key reason why Russia went to war with its neighbour, the US' ABC News reported on Tuesday.

The leader of the war-torn nation was also reported to have gone a step ahead in mending fences with Vladimir Putin, stating that he was open to discussing the status of the two breakaway pro-Russian domains of Donetsk and Lugansk which Moscow insists are independent republics.

"I have cooled down regarding this question a long time ago after we understood that ... NATO is not prepared to accept Ukraine," Zelenskyy said in a televised interview. "The alliance is afraid of controversial things, and confrontation with Russia."

Zelenskyy also said Ukraine did not want to be a "country that is begging something on its knees" and he "did not want to be that President".

Here's the thing... Zelenskyy is right to think this. In fact, as far as a defence alliance goes there may be more sense with Turkey and Ukraine having a mutual defence agreement outside of NATO... Turkey has been increasingly distancing itself from NATO over the last few years, but building it's technological abilities and they are on good relations. So it could be beneficial if these two countries were to enter into their own alliance between NATO and Russia...

[R8Z]

Now that the US officials have vehemently denied having bio(weapon) labs in Ukraine I am pretty sure they most certainly did or at least funded research there that could be weaponized. Probably a matter of time before some evidence shows up. It will be impossible to distinguish if it's propaganda or not, unfortunately.

[wjfox]

[wjfox]

[erowind]

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[Ken_J]

Here's the thing... Zelenskyy is right to think this. In fact, as far as a defence alliance goes there may be more sense with Turkey and Ukraine having a mutual defence agreement outside of NATO... Turkey has been increasingly distancing itself from NATO over the last few years, but building it's technological abilities and they are on good relations. So it could be beneficial if these two countries were to enter into their own alliance between NATO and Russia...

Turkey has already positioned itself against Russia miltarily, though Turkey is playing a cautious hand at the moment. This is evident by Turkey's direct involvement in the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war where Turkey provided Syrian mercenaries and arms to Azerbaijan, whereas Russia provided arms to Armenia. If Ukraine wants to be left alone allying with Turkey is an awful idea. Ukraine would be better off attempting to spearhead a new non-aligned movement with countries like Sweden.

Turkey is having economic problems already before all this, and they are a big importer of Russian fossil fuels which isn't likely to do well for them in the near future. It feels like they are not super stable enough to rely on for alliances against russians.

[andmar74]

Ukraine would be better off attempting to spearhead a new non-aligned movement with countries like Sweden.

Sweden would never do that. The priminister said yesterday that if Sweden became a member of Nato, Europe would be more unstable. Sweden wants to be friends with everybody and don't want to fight any wars.

[R8Z]

I am extremely disappointed with DDG. I used to tolerate the subpar results they give considering they didn't censor their search results; talk about shooting at their own foot. Now I am already looking for alternatives

[wjfox]

[wjfox]

I am extremely disappointed with DDG. I used to tolerate the subpar results they give considering they didn't censor their search results; talk about shooting at their own foot. Now I am already looking for alternatives

So you'd rather have Russian disinformation in your search results?

[raklian]

I am extremely disappointed with DDG. I used to tolerate the subpar results they give considering they didn't censor their search results; talk about shooting at their own foot. Now I am already looking for alternatives

So you'd rather have Russian disinformation in your search results?

Some people are pretty strong advocates when it comes to net neutrality regardless of the implications.

[R8Z]

I am extremely disappointed with DDG. I used to tolerate the subpar results they give considering they didn't censor their search results; talk about shooting at their own foot. Now I am already looking for alternatives

So you'd rather have Russian disinformation in your search results?

If I wanted to see curated results by US propaganda experts I'd rather use Google.

[weatheriscool]

"No progress" toward cease-fire in high-level Russia-Ukraine talks after Russia accused of bombing
Source: CBS News

Antalya, Turkey — Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba met Thursday in Turkey in the first such high-level contact since Moscow invaded its neighbor. Speaking after the talks, Kuleba told reporters there was "no progress" toward a cease-fire.

"We also talked on the cease-fire but no progress was accomplished on that," Dmytro Kuleba said, describing the discussion as "difficult" and accusing his counterpart of bringing little more than "traditional narratives" to the table.

The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency said earlier he was also heading to Antalya for meetings amid mounting concern over the safety of Ukraine's nuclear energy plants, but it was unclear when he was due to arrive or who he might meet with.

Even before the talks began, analysts feared there were slim chances of any breakthrough. Images of the meeting showed the Russian, Turkish and Ukrainian delegations sitting around a table, with each minister accompanied by just two other officials.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukr ... ons-claim/

[wjfox]

Entire Ukrainian infantry companies now have an anti-tank weapon each:

[R8Z]

Entire Ukrainian infantry companies now have an anti-tank weapon each:

This puts a smile to the face. Although I still worry what a desperate Russia is capable of.

[raklian]

[wjfox]

Anonymous hacks Russian federal agency, releases 360,000 documents

Documents released by the hacking group show that Russia is censoring the narrative regarding its role in its war with Ukraine.

By ARIELLA MARSDEN
Updated: MARCH 10, 2022 20:45

The Ukrainian Anonymous hacker group has hacked into Roskomnadzor, the Russian federal agency responsible for monitoring and censoring media, and released 360,000 files, the group announced on Twitter on Thursday.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-700940

[erowind]

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[Maximus]

Ukraine would be better off attempting to spearhead a new non-aligned movement with countries like Sweden.

Sweden would never do that. The priminister said yesterday that if Sweden became a member of Nato, Europe would be more unstable. Sweden wants to be friends with everybody and don't want to fight any wars.

True that Sweden doesn't want to be involved in any wars. However the point of a non-aligned movement would be that it would be explicitly neutral and not allied with NATO or The Russian Lead Union State. Sweden, or, countries like Sweden, may have a different attitude towards a genuinely neutral alliance, that's something distinct from NATO membership.

This might not be permissible from Russia's point of view, since Sweden is in the EU, and that would imply closer Western ties for Ukraine. Even more, the EU has defense pact, and toothless or not, I doubt Russia would want Ukraine being covered by it.