Ukraine War Watch Thread

[funkervogt]

We should have at least one pro-Russian user on the forum to present their perspective. The forum will still be overwhelmingly anti-Russia.

More generally speaking, I think ignoring Russia's national concerns went a long way to sparking the Ukraine War, and the massive "cancellations" of Russians and their institutions since it started have gone too far (for example, the chess player being banned from competitions because he supported the War on social media). There should always be an open channel for us to hear Putin's and Russia's perspective. We're always free to disagree with it.

[Certain Russian user]

We should have at least one pro-Russian user on the forum to present their perspective. The forum will still be overwhelmingly anti-Russia.

I highly doubt you'll find one. And don't count on me to write long essays and "present perspectives". Wrong place, wrong time.

[wjfox]

the massive "cancellations" of Russians and their institutions since it started have gone too far (for example, the chess player being banned from competitions because he supported the War on social media). There should always be an open channel for us to hear Putin's and Russia's perspective. We're always free to disagree with it.

No. I think my Dad summed it up best –

[funkervogt]

We should have at least one pro-Russian user on the forum to present their perspective. The forum will still be overwhelmingly anti-Russia.

I highly doubt you'll find one. And don't count on me to write long essays and "present perspectives". Wrong place, wrong time.

If you aren't going to present the Russian perspective on the Ukraine War, then why are you here?

[caltrek]

We don't want your propaganda, or the harm to our SEO.

Yeah, I understand. Dangerous and disturbing thing, the major social network out of your censors control. I well remember how you (or caltrek) whined in old forum about "telegram is blocked in authoritarian Russia"... and look at yourself now. Pathetic!

Don't you feel ashamed to be Russian right now? Like, at all?

What about you? Don't you at all ashamed to be Brit right now? After all the lies and propaganda efforts your country and you personally have undertaken to... ah well, no matter.

Anyway no, I'm definitely NOT ashamed.

I never whined about "telegram is blocked in authoritarian Russia." Are you getting senile in your old age?

...Ummm....no I don't feel ashamed about being British. As you may recall, we fought a revolution over that.

Perhaps, as you say, "no matter."

[Member]

We should have at least one pro-Russian user on the forum to present their perspective. The forum will still be overwhelmingly anti-Russia.

I highly doubt you'll find one. And don't count on me to write long essays and "present perspectives". Wrong place, wrong time.

If you aren't going to present the Russian perspective on the Ukraine War, then why are you here?

We're here forever.

[caltrek]

Hey, certain Russian poster...All you did was show just how fucking weak you were and how we overestimated you fucking Russians as we thought you were a real threat to Europe for decades, but come to find out, you just got your ass handed to you by the Ukrainian millitary for fucks sake! Train loads of dead Russian troops are coming home to be dumped into mass russian graves because of the idiocy of your dicator Vlad putin!!! Wtf did he do to your military? Oh'yess he and his rich friends buy big houses and f*ck sluts as they deplete your once great nation! The west is laughing at your fucking ass as you couldn't attack nato even if you wanted too and if you did you'd be schooled so fucking hard by the United states and the combined power of nato that we'd own Moscow for centuries when we were done with you bastards. Hahaha

Yes, such a serious and thorough military analytics was exactly what I needed. Thank you.

Oh, at this point, I am not sure which one of you is the funniest...

[caltrek]

We should have at least one pro-Russian user on the forum to present their perspective. The forum will still be overwhelmingly anti-Russia.

I highly doubt you'll find one. And don't count on me to write long essays and "present perspectives". Wrong place, wrong time.

If you're going to present the Russian perspective on the Ukraine War, then why are you here?

I think it is because he finds us "entertaining."

Edit: How did the "aren't" get dropped to make the statement an affirmation, as in "If you're going." Just curious.

[Member]

I think it is because he finds us "entertaining."

I think he finds us curious

[caltrek]

I think it is because he finds us "entertaining."

I think he finds us curious

Perhaps he finds us curiously entertaining.

[funkervogt]

Edit: How did the "aren't" get dropped to make the statement an affirmation, as in "If you're going." Just curious.

Simple mistake on my part. I just fixed it.

[weatheriscool]

[weatheriscool]

"Russians have been threatening to trap Ukrainian fighters at the "Azovstal" plant in Mariupol and use chemical weapons against them.
The 36th Separate Marine Brigade, which is involved in defending Mariupol from Russian forces, has published a video address to Ukrainians in the Russian language. The statement said that 11 April could be the last battle for all defenders of Mariupol, and that the Ukrainian military command had not contacted the fighters for two weeks.
The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valerii Zaluzhnyi later reacted, saying that the command had contact with the defending forces in Mariupol. He added that the details of the defence operation of Ukrainian defenders should not be the subject of public discussion."

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/11/7338922/

[weatheriscool]

[caltrek]

War in Ukraine: Support for Children and Families

https://www.unicef.org/emergencies/war- ... t-children

(UNICEF) The war in Ukraine is having a devastating impact on the country’s 7.5 million children. Humanitarian needs are multiplying by the hour as the fighting continues. Children continue to be killed, wounded and deeply traumatized by the violence all around them. Families are terrified, in shock, and desperate for safety.

The past eight years of conflict in Ukraine have already inflicted profound and lasting harm on children. Now, the threats to Ukraine’s children have only grown. By 5 April, around 4.3 million refugees had fled Ukraine, with women and children making up 90 per cent of the refugee population. Millions more people have been internally displaced. Such large-scale displacements could have lasting consequences for generations to come. Children fleeing war in Ukraine are also at heightened risk of human trafficking and exploitation. Meanwhile, attacks using explosive weapons continue to move closer to populated urban areas increasingly striking children’s homes, schools, hospitals, water systems, power plants, and places where civilians are seeking shelter.

UNICEF is working with partners to reach vulnerable children and families with essential services – including health, education, protection, water and sanitation – as well as life-saving supplies.

[weatheriscool]

[Cyber_Rebel]

Seriously, I fail to understand this:

Failing at understanding seems to be a common theme with you and your country, for example, failing to understand Ukrainian and Russian borders, the Helsinki Accords, or just human decency at all.

there were bastards who fiercely hated and did their best to harm Russia and Russians,

No one gives a damn about your failed state. No one harms Russia better than your own leaders, which historically you've done nothing but make excuses for.

our army calmly and professionally removed them from this damn world.

It was neither calm nor professional, rapist apologizer. I guess getting rejected on fucking Tinder hurt those fragile egos.

These bastards can no longer kill or torture anyone, just peacefully lying on the ground and rotting. Do anyone seriously expect this to be a bad thing in my eyes?

Ironic that this is exactly how the rest of the damn world feels about your people right now, though perhaps given your behavior, even the term animals would be far too kind. No, I don't expect a nationalistic psychopath to feel anything about it, but I do hope you'll feel shame, humiliation, and utter malice at being Russian by the time this is all over with. Assuming you live, of course.

[Xyls]

[caltrek]

For the most curious (and not squeamish) ones, here is one of HUGE LOT such links. What remained of legendary (since war of 2014) Ukrainian "Checkpoint 29" position. Cruel, but fair and well deserved, I think. To watch, remove spaces before and after "t.me":

https:// t.me /Ukr_G_M/2144

But strongly 18+

Pushing war porn now, are we?

So, what kind of cookies do you like to eat? Those made with ingredients grown in Chernobyl?

Why don't you show us some photographs of those precious soldiers of yours dying of radiation poisoning?

Too graphic, perhaps? Perhaps just too much of a reminder of the cost of following your glorious leader?

[Certain Russian user]

Why don't you show us some photographs of those precious soldiers of yours dying of radiation poisoning?

Hmm, interesting question... maybe because there are no any such photos?

Try to grasp this: they stayed there for a month jointly and in the same conditions with local personnel who was there permanently. Local personnel does not suffering any terrible consequences. And now try to draw conclusions. I hope this will not be so difficult with your bachelor degree.

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As for "huge Russian losses" you're all so happy about, try to solve this riddle: why, with such a losses ratio, this is exactly Ukraine who launches one "wave" of mobilization after another. Just yesterday they passed the new law demanding from men liable for military service abroad to return home within 15 days under penalty of 10 years in prison. Why such a stupid tantrum (obviously no one in their right mind will return)? While Russian command keep fighting with roughly the same initial (rather limited) forces and don't feel the need to change this.

I do not ask you to love Russia. I just ask to analyze the sources and use your brain, at least sometimes. This should help.