Ukraine War Watch Thread

[Certain Russian user]

One does not commit war crimes against "our people" or allow one's soldiers to commit such crimes without consequences.

Exactly.

This whole "butchery of Bucha" story was so obvious and easily verifiable fake that I thought even Western propaganda will eventually drop this, the same way as they immediately dropped and "forgot" another "Russian atrocity" - missile strike on railway terminal in Kramatorsk - after fragments from this missile (Ukrainian "Tochka-U") with a serial number were found.

The story of Bucha was even more obvious:

1) Russian army left.

2) One day later the local mayor recorded a joyful video: victory, the city is returning to normal.

3) A "cleansing" from "collaborators" (codeword for locals who took Russian humanitarian aid) was announced.

4) Another day later they suddenly "noticed" hundreds of killed people lying on the streets.

Do you think this is the bottom? Not yet:

5) For many (about ten) days these dead people laid unburied where they were "found" to allow Western Big Bosses visit the site, shed crocodile tears, and take photos.

I don't expect to convince you, mr.Caltek (we know each other well enough, after all). Therefore let's just agree on this: whoever really did this, should regret he was even born. Сall me naive, but I believe that our world is fundamentally fair, and unleashed evil and lies always returns.

[Xyls]

PS I'm unlikely to write anything else here (maybe another post after our victory, but that's all).

I mean that's a really indirect way to say that you are going to lose the war. Which is pretty evident to everyone else except Russia at this point.

[Certain Russian user]

I mean that's a really indirect way to say that you are going to lose the war. Which is pretty evident to everyone else except Russia at this point.

Very wrong guess, but thank you. Your post was added to my collection of local pearls of wisdom.

Meanwhile:

Azovstal siege ends as hundreds of Ukrainian fighters surrender
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 022-05-17/

Among other news, the new pocket with 15-18 thousand Ukrainian soldiers inside was just formed in Severodonetsk-Lisichansk agglomeration... pretty evident indeed.

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UPD Oh, and I forgot to congratulate everyone with today's precise strike on Western Ukraine... According to official release from Russian MOD, the target was Western military stuff and Ukrainian personnel. And according to howling and curses in Ukronet, Russian missiles successfully met their targets.

[Certain Russian user]

No offence, I just find this amusing that you, guys, keep celebrating your "coming victory" exactly when (judging even by Ukrainian own news) the "calm phase" seems to be over and Ukrainian positions in Donbass begins to crumble.

So, I'll surely visit this thread, from time to time.

[wjfox]

I mean that's a really indirect way to say that you are going to lose the war. Which is pretty evident to everyone else except Russia at this point.

Very wrong guess, but thank you. Your post was added to my collection of local pearls of wisdom.

Meanwhile:

Azovstal siege ends as hundreds of Ukrainian fighters surrender
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 022-05-17/

Among other news, the new pocket with 15-18 thousand Ukrainian soldiers inside was just formed in Severodonetsk-Lisichansk agglomeration... pretty evident indeed.

=== === ===

UPD Oh, and I forgot to congratulate everyone with today's precise strike on Western Ukraine... According to official release from Russian MOD, the target was Western military stuff and Ukrainian personnel. And according to howling and curses in Ukronet, Russian missiles successfully met their targets.

Wow, that's awesome!

Your country is sooooo cool right now. We all really admire Russia and Putin – such an example to the world.

Perhaps England should invade France and reclaim some of its medieval territory. I'm sure that would make us popular too!

/s

[Certain Russian user]

Perhaps England should invade France and reclaim some of its medieval territory.

Yes, that would be wonderful.

[joe00uk]

We all really admire Russia and Putin – such an example to the world.

Well, perhaps he will become an example to other countries in the future. With Western hegemony crumbling, the world is becoming a more belligerent place, and the spoils are up for grabs.

[Certain Russian user]

Well, perhaps he will become an example to other countries in the future. With Western hegemony crumbling, the world is becoming a more belligerent place, and the spoils are up for grabs.

Very true. The non-western world watching Russia not with admiration, but with great curiosity: "let's see what will happen to them... can we already do the same, or still not?"

[weatheriscool]

Mariupol fighters in Russian hands; both sides claim wins
Source: AP

By OLEKSANDR STASHEVSKYI and CIARAN McQUILLAN

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Hundreds of Ukrainian fighters, including wounded men carried out on stretchers, left the vast steel plant in Mariupol where they mounted a dogged last stand and turned themselves over to Russian hands, signaling the beginning of the end of a siege that became a symbol of Ukraine’s resistance to Moscow’s invasion.

Russia on Tuesday called the operation a mass surrender. The Ukrainians avoided using that word — but said the garrison had completed its mission, and that they were working to pull out the fighters that remain.

On Monday, more than 260 fighters left the Azovstal plant — their last redoubt in Mariupol — and were transported to two towns controlled by Moscow-backed separatists, officials on both sides said. Other fighters — their precise numbers unknown — remain inside the ruins of the fortified mill that sprawls over 11 square kilometers (4 square miles) in the otherwise Russian-held city.

Azovstal’s fall would mark the complete capture of Mariupol, a significant milestone in one of the bloodiest battles of the war. It would give Russia its biggest victory yet after multiple setbacks — both military and diplomatic. Its troops have suffered costly losses, and President Vladimir Putin is increasingly isolated internationally, with Finland and Sweden announcing in recent days that they intend to join NATO, a major blow to the Russian leader.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... b83f2ca7e0

[Certain Russian user]

Mariupol fighters in Russian hands; both sides claim wins

Yeah, love the wording.

But this is true. In today's Ukrainian media, you will hardly find the word "surrendered". Instead, people were informed that Azov militants "agreed to be evacuated into Russia-controlled territory". A kind of victory, indeed...

[Certain Russian user]

Another 600 or so Azov militants surrendered today. Wounded were sent to hospital, and healthy to temporary prison camp in Elenovka. They will, I hope, stand trial and get what they deserve:

State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin gave instructions to prepare a resolution... "Nazi criminals should not be exchanged. They are war criminals, and we must do everything to bring them to justice," Volodin said.

Сдались безоговорочно: пленные украинские боевики с "Азовстали"
https://blocked/plennye-1789195329.html

I'm unlikely to write anything else here

I was wrong, but my excuse is a stream of good, really inspiring news.

[Vakanai]

Another 600 or so Azov militants surrendered today. Wounded were sent to hospital, and healthy to temporary prison camp in Elenovka. They will, I hope, stand trial and get what they deserve:

State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin gave instructions to prepare a resolution... "Nazi criminals should not be exchanged. They are war criminals, and we must do everything to bring them to justice," Volodin said.

Сдались безоговорочно: пленные украинские боевики с "Азовстали"
https://blocked/plennye-1789195329.html

I'm unlikely to write anything else here

I was wrong, but my excuse is a stream of good, really inspiring news.

I'm sorry, but no. This isn't good news. Your country invaded a peaceful country that posed yours no threat. They aren't militants, they aren't the ones who need to stand trial. Every Russian victory in this unjust war isn't good news, it is a tragedy. And most people aren't going to buy Russia's propaganda.

[Certain Russian user]

peaceful country that posed yours no threat.

Sigh... I don't know how old are you and on what planet you lived for these last years. Anyway, let us Russians ourselves decide what is a threat for us and what is not.

And most people aren't going to buy Russia's propaganda.

I'm not seller. Think of my posts this way: they are the Thick Rusty Nail of Reality mercilessly hammered into Sparkling Crystal Castle of your wishful thinking.

[Certain Russian user]

In regards to previous post. As I told above, I made a kind of collection from posts of this thread (starting from 24 February). I hope you, guys, will not mind if I show them on some Russian forums. This is not meant to insult you personally, just to demonstrate the pattern.

And whoever does mind, just let me know under this post. The thoughts of this author will be excluded from demonstration.

PS will not be applied to obvious enemies like WjFox himself and some others with their "Russia is ugly stain that needs to be wiped... and so on" spiteful tantrums. These will be reposted anyway.

[Vakanai]

Sigh... I don't know how old are you and on what planet you lived for these last years. Anyway, let us Russians ourselves decide what is a threat for us and what is not.

Thirty five years old, and been on earth for all of them. And problem with what you said is that the Ukrainians were affected by that decision and had no say in it.

I'm not seller. Think of my posts this way: they are the Thick Rusty Nail of Reality mercilessly hammered into Sparkling Crystal Castle of your wishful thinking.

Except that they're really not, and everyone outside of Russia realizes how wrong Putin's war is.

[Certain Russian user]

And problem with what you said is that the Ukrainians were affected by that decision and had no say in it.

They had their say when they yelled "Long live the Nation, Death to the enemies, Ukraine above all..."

They had their say when they nationwide gloated over people burned alive in Odessa.

They had their say when they didn't at all objected (and, again, nationwide gloated) when their artillery was for years shelling the cities of Donbass.

And more, and more, and more...

Their only mistake was naive confidence that this all - fires, shellings, pain, deaths, despair - was somewhere far away and wasn't meant to affect them, the loud patriots and silent conformists. Well, they were wrong.

[Vakanai]

And problem with what you said is that the Ukrainians were affected by that decision and had no say in it.

They had their say when they yelled "Long live the Nation, Death to the enemies, Ukraine above all..."

They had their say when they nationwide gloated over people burned alive in Odessa.

They had their say when they didn't at all objected (and, again, nationwide gloated) when their artillery was for years shelling the cities of Donbass.

And more, and more, and more...

Their only mistake was naive confidence that this all - fires, shellings, pain, deaths, despair - was somewhere far away and wasn't meant to affect them, the loud patriots and silent conformists. Well, they were wrong.

Except they literally never said that. Except that they never did any of that. You have a very skewed view informed by what Putin wants you to believe, and not by reality. The only ones who are wrong are those who believe the propaganda of an authoritarian leader. But I don't blame you - most and now all your media has been under the control of one man for most of this millennium. It's hard to believe that the world view you've been told to believe for so long is wrong. Just know that no one blames you, also no one outside of Putin's sphere believes it, and thus no one outside of Putin's sphere will believe that the Ukrainians are to blame for this war on their nation.

[Certain Russian user]

Except they literally never said that. Except that they never did any of that... etc

I thought I saw everything, but you managed to surprise me. OK, let's drop it then.

[Vakanai]

Except they literally never said that. Except that they never did any of that... etc

I thought I saw everything, but you managed to surprise me. OK, let's drop it then.

Hmm, let me be clear - I imagine that they might have said those words, after Russia annexed Crimea. I imagine they might have used artillery when fighting separatists. I however do not imagine they ever did anything other than wish to keep their country theirs and never provoked a superpower into invading their country.

[Cyber_Rebel]

In regards to previous post. As I told above, I made a kind of collection from posts of this thread (starting from 24 February). I hope you, guys, will not mind if I show them on some Russian forums. This is not meant to insult you personally, just to demonstrate the pattern.

You know, you people could better spend your time actually contributing something of use to humanity, rather than doing trite petty things like making "enemy list" of all those who disagree with you. Maybe, just maybe people might actually respect Russia for once if you did.

I'd also rather have focused on the shitty pandemic this year (again) personally, but thanks to your glorious nation and the resulting refugee crisis from it, controlling said pandemic is likely now a pipe dream. Congrats, truly an accomplishment over a piece of scorched earth.

Hi Russia , with love from America and soon Canada