The future of Brazil

[unnaturalmilk]

Hi! So, with all of those predictions about climate change and demographics becoming pretty likely to happen, what do you personally think will be the future of Brazil? Will it balkanize and enter into irrelevance due to declining demographics and climate change or will it be able to be powerful/remain as it is due to its abundant water supply, natural resources and some unpredictable rise in birth rates?

[carlosfabbro]

Hi, by 2032, Brazil will be the fifth-largest economy on the planet.
we have all the necessary natural resources, water, ore, iron, graphite and so many other natural resources in abundance.
Currently, Brazil is already the third-largest agricultural producer and exporter on the planet and the trend is that this will grow exponentially in the coming years.
Our only problem is bad people with hidden agendas wanting to implement the same political system as practiced in China, capitalism for the government and communism for the population. Our neighbors Argentina and Venezuela are heading in this direction is disastrous, just google it.
We, the Brazilian people, are free and we will continue to fight so that it remains so and that our country grows as a nation and can continue helping other nations around the planet.

[MythOfProgress]

Considering the majority of the Amazon rainforest resides in Brazil and is responsible for regulating carbon/oxygen cycles( alongside providing critical ecosystems and being a carbon sink in general), it's safe to say it will most likely collapse(inevitably passing the tipping point) under the leadership of Mr. Bolsonaro, who seems to be taking some inspiration of climate denialism from trump, and in general a far-right stance on most social issues. that being said, this is just my informed opinion and i'm not an actual resident, so i can't attest to the amount of environmental,political, urban decay that is going on there besides the articles i have to go off of.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -president
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ing-point/

[Bird]

I had a read up on the politics of the place. While I wouldn't go so far as saying the country's headed for complete collapse, Bolsonaro looks like a complete disaster. Textbook far-right nutjob. Looking into it, it seems he won the last election comfortably. Everything I read about him makes him sound even worse than Trump.

On the flip side, the aforementioned election was 4 years ago, and the next one's happening in October. Every poll I look at claims (claims) he's going to be crushed or at least defeated by his opponent "Lula" in the October election. With Lula, there seems to be some complicated affair going on with corruption that I don't feel informed enough about to comment on. Still, at a glance he looks miles better than Bolsonaro.

[homo_habilis]

Considering the majority of the Amazon rainforest resides in Brazil and is responsible for regulating carbon/oxygen cycles( alongside providing critical ecosystems and being a carbon sink in general), it's safe to say it will most likely collapse(inevitably passing the tipping point) under the leadership of Mr. Bolsonaro, who seems to be taking some inspiration of climate denialism from trump, and in general a far-right stance on most social issues. that being said, this is just my informed opinion and i'm not an actual resident, so i can't attest to the amount of environmental,political, urban decay that is going on there besides the articles i have to go off of.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -president
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ing-point/

Bolsonaro will step down from the presidency this year.

[SerethiaFalcon]

The only interesting fact I know about Brazil is that there is a current that goes from South Africa to the Amazon rainforest, which delivers deposits of minerals that make the soil rich enough for all the diversity of plants that grow there. If that ocean current were to ever divert somehow (with the warming of the oceans or some other factor), the Amazon rainforest would largely disappear. The soil isn't good enough on its own without those deposits. However, that would only affect the rainforest of the country, not necessarily everything else (although there is something to be said about the interconnection of nature and humanity's flourishing, at least currently).

[MythOfProgress]

and the trend is that this will grow exponentially in the coming years.

curious by this prospect, do you have a source for this?

capitalism for the government and communism for the population.

a little confused by this statement, are you referring to state capitalism or something else entirely?

Bolsonaro will step down from the presidency this year.

good news, let's hope that lula turns around the environmental destruction and makes some preservation/conservation efforts. doubtful, but we'll see what happens.

[carlosfabbro]

I make a provocation here, start by taking out the trash from your own house and making your bed in the morning.

Then do something effective on your street, with your neighbors and your community, done that, do something for your city and then for your state and finally for your country. Most nations have destroyed most of their ecosystems by exploiting and are now worried about the planet, this is hypocrisy.

The amazon belongs to Brazil, and the main concern is not with deforestation or the global climate, but with the wealth that is in this region and throughout our country.

Some countries will begin to experience a decline in the next few years and Brazil has continental dimensions, we are on an upward curve and this has bothered some groups a lot.

Our flag is green, yellow, blue, and white, the green represents our forests and reserves, including the Amazon, the yellow represents our wealth, the blue represents our water capacity, rivers, and seas and the white represents peace and good coexistence with all the other nations of the planet.

Our people were deceived for many decades, but now the Brazilian people have woken up and will not accept impositions and or authoritarian systems like communism in disguise.

God bless our planet and all the people who live here, may we have intelligence in dialogues and freedom in actions.

[carlosfabbro]

and the trend is that this will grow exponentially in the coming years.

curious by this prospect, do you have a source for this? https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... ies-by-gdp

capitalism for the government and communism for the population.

a little confused by this statement, are you referring to state capitalism or something else entirely? I mean state capitalism.

Bolsonaro will step down from the presidency this year.

This is the dream of every communist, who still defends a gang of thieves that we have around here who stole more than 1 trillion and today have resources hidden around the world in trusts and llcs.
good news, let's hope that lula turns around the environmental destruction and makes some preservation/conservation efforts. doubtful, but we'll see what happens.

[Vakanai]

The only prediction that I as an outsider can make about Brazil is the most obvious one - you're going to lose most of your rainforest.

[MythOfProgress]

I make a provocation here, start by taking out the trash from your own house and making your bed in the morning.

Then do something effective on your street, with your neighbors and your community, done that, do something for your city and then for your state and finally for your country. Most nations have destroyed most of their ecosystems by exploiting and are now worried about the planet, this is hypocrisy.

fancy speech and all, but please don't confuse getting involved in your local community, joining a mutual aid group or a protest for actual avenues of change, these are great and all in terms of building resilience and making some noise/pressure on legislators/lawmakers/politicians or government officials though that's just the the thing, it's an indirect admittance that change generally doesn't happen from the bottom-up(citizenry), but from the top down(aforementioned elites), would probably go as far to say that most people will choose the path of least resistance and bury their heads in the sand.
if those aren't the types of action(s) you're referring to, then chances are the kind of action(s) you're going for is the type that will probably put you on a watchlist, in which case good luck lol.

and the main concern is not with deforestation or the global climate, but with the wealth that is in this region and throughout our country.

is this you talking or the entirety of Brazil?

Our people were deceived for many decades, but now the Brazilian people have woken up and will not accept impositions and or authoritarian systems like communism in disguise.

This is the dream of every communist, who still defends a gang of thieves that we have around here who stole more than 1 trillion and today have resources hidden around the world in trusts and llcs

not necessarily a defense of communism, but i'm not really a fan of how you conflate it with the regimes you're referring to(ie. mao China, Soviet Union, east germany, north korea) while they do make claims of being communist types, their ideologies and economic models tend to depict a different picture, that and the various factors regarding their downfall- i'd settle for a more nuanced perspective as opposed to the demonization you're going for, though i can't blame most ppl for thinking this way considering the internet(and remnants of McCarthyism) perpetuates this common misconception.

curious by this prospect, do you have a source for this? https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... ies-by-gdp

took a look at it, and while it is informative it doesn't exactly say anything about the agricultural producer/exporter aspect you were talking about earlier and if you're referring to the population graph, i'm not seeing any signs of the exponential growth, exponential graphs would usually be characterized by a leveling out effect and getting steep iirc.
i don't know entirely what to make of your vague, revolutionary statements but i wish you good luck on your endeavors sir. cheers.

[R8Z]

How foreigners see Brazil is heavily biased by their source of partisan news/information. During the time I've lived in Germany I didn't see a single positive message about Brazil in the local media. I've lived there since 2018 until the end of last year. Brazil is not the best country out there, but it's quite obvious not as bad as it is portrait outside its borders.


source: https://www.poder360.com.br/economia/mi ... no-2o-tri/

Non-ironically Germany had only negative economy-related news about Brazil during the last three months according to the source above (even though we are above average globally speaking). It's quite obvious when foreigners come thinking that it is the worst possible country, partisan media makes sense and works.

Only my opinion but judging by the amount of negative press we get (like the above from France, UK and Germany), I think Europe fears the powerhouse Brazil is when it comes to exports and shadowing them due to their own choices (e.g. dismantling their energy and farming sector by choice). When they actively worked against the potential deal for free commerce between the EU and Mercosul that became quite clear a few years ago.

As for what the future holds for Brazil, with the public sector stepping aside, there are many modern environmental friendly (leed certified) planned cities under development by the private sector, at least in my state (like this one). There's definitely a huge boom in the real estate sector, we recently built the highest residential skyscraper of the Americas (see next video). There's a lot of development that doesn't get highlighted out there:

Unfortunately for politics, there's still a portion of the population that is against progress at all costs down here, even if it means most will get poorer than they could possibly be, so it's always a looming danger for what the future holds for the country. Part and parcel of living in a democracy.

Anyway the summary is that there's a big future in the hand of entrepreneurs down here, not a lot in the hands of corrupt politicians.

[MythOfProgress]

Bolsonaro will step down from the presidency this year.

With some added caveats it seems, . i'll be watching, .