How optimistic are you about the near-term future? [2021 - 2055]

[Redspector]

1/10, we are clearly on our way to the implementation of a social credit score in the western world plus the looming threat of the Great Reset. 2 years ago, I would have said 7/10 but things have changed. Or perhaps the plans of the evil elites have just been made more visible. This is incidentally why I've largely abandoned this forum and futurism at large, I no longer want to think about the future.

Where is the proof that great reset is this schizo thing that Qanon fans think it is? don't they believe the great reset will result in a worldwide authoritarian LGBTQIA government that allows mass immigration and makes white people second class citizens?

I know i sound like im mocking you but im not. I genuinely want to know what your opinion and what the general right wing opinion is on the "great reset".

Name calling whoever disagrees with you makes you look silly.

On the topic at hand: forget culture and any of the other distractions. It's all about the (fake) money and control of the masses through it. I don't know if the following quote faithfully represent actual words that came from a Rothschild mouth, but it is indeed a truthful statement that sums-up the last century and the following decades that come.

I care not who controls a nation's political affairs [laws, regulations, etc..], so long as I control her currency [as then I have the control over the nation]

~ M.A. Rothschild

This is nothing new under the sun; most nations are indeed under control by a clique of powerful unnamed people that pull the strings. These people might control several nations, or only their own, but whoever controls the currency printing device of a country, controls the nation's direction. That's why non-centralized digital currencies are so appealing to freedom enthusiasts and also why I believe we have a more bright path due to technology for the future.

I firmly believe that the earth is concave and that the earth is space and space is inside earth. I also believe in jewish space lazers creating forest fires and of course i believe democrats have a shadow orphan eater cabal at a pizzeria in DC.

You would call me a name. Some beliefs are too ridiculous to not ridicule a little.

[Redspector]

1/10, we are clearly on our way to the implementation of a social credit score in the western world plus the looming threat of the Great Reset. 2 years ago, I would have said 7/10 but things have changed. Or perhaps the plans of the evil elites have just been made more visible. This is incidentally why I've largely abandoned this forum and futurism at large, I no longer want to think about the future.

Where is the proof that great reset is this schizo thing that Qanon fans think it is? don't they believe the great reset will result in a worldwide authoritarian LGBTQIA government that allows mass immigration and makes white people second class citizens?

I know i sound like im mocking you but im not. I genuinely want to know what your opinion and what the general right wing opinion is on the "great reset".

Name calling whoever disagrees with you makes you look silly.

On the topic at hand: forget culture and any of the other distractions. It's all about the (fake) money and control of the masses through it. I don't know if the following quote faithfully represent actual words that came from a Rothschild mouth, but it is indeed a truthful statement that sums-up the last century and the following decades that come.

I care not who controls a nation's political affairs [laws, regulations, etc..], so long as I control her currency [as then I have the control over the nation]

~ M.A. Rothschild

This is nothing new under the sun; most nations are indeed under control by a clique of powerful unnamed people that pull the strings. These people might control several nations, or only their own, but whoever controls the currency printing device of a country, controls the nation's direction. That's why non-centralized digital currencies are so appealing to freedom enthusiasts and also why I believe we have a more bright path due to technology for the future.

You say all of this and yet you think the solution is libertarianism though. Why?

The solution is literally to give the means of production to the workers and abolish class by giving the appropiate amount of "wealth" to people based on their contributions rather than people like jeff bezos being worth 100 billion while most of his workers can barely afford rent/if at all. His wealth is based almost entirely on taking the wages of others. The worker isn't lazy and Bezos isn't a God. Do you think Bezos works 100,000x harder than the average worker? What if the workers got to choose their leaders and ultimately controlled where profits go rather than a rich executive deciding to give 20% of the entire profit to himself.

I cannot understand capitalists sometimes. The solution is to "remove government". The only thing that has stood in the way of child labor laws, people being forced to work 80 hours under paid security guards for nothing, slavery, and any other exploitation you can imagine. The rich must be abolished by taking ownership of what we produce. I am not 100,000x less productive than my CEO and i know how much i am actually contributing per hour of wage labor at my job. Why do i make 10x less than what i produce? Why did my CEO get a 2,000,000 dollar raise during the covid recession while he laid off countless amounts of employees i worked with?

[wjfox]

This is one of the worst periods in history for imperial rivalries

That isn't true, though. The world is clearly more peaceful today than in the past. Wartime deaths are gradually trending towards zero. There is cooperation on many issues. The world is so interconnected, and so reliant on international relations now, a major war seems too risky. Bad behaviour by one country can be punished by sanctions and other measures.

[Redspector]

This is one of the worst periods in history for imperial rivalries

That isn't true, though. The world is clearly more peaceful today than in the past. Wartime deaths are gradually trending towards zero. There is cooperation on many issues. The world is so interconnected, and so reliant on international relations now, a major war seems too risky. Bad behaviour by one country can be punished by sanctions and other measures.

What did Cuba do to deserve its sanctions?

[Cyber_Rebel]

This is one of the worst periods in history for imperial rivalries

That isn't true, though. The world is clearly more peaceful today than in the past. Wartime deaths are gradually trending towards zero. There is cooperation on many issues. The world is so interconnected, and so reliant on international relations now, a major war seems too risky. Bad behaviour by one country can be punished by sanctions and other measures.

"Peaceful" overall, kinda like the lead up to WW1 in a sense. The reason why I said that is not arguing against the progress made, but reminding how easy it is to lose that progress. You saw how disastrous the last U.S. election was, but more so than that the feeling to compete again on a great power basis with Russia & China. Whether it's the issue with Taiwan, or the failure to adequately address climate commitments due to those exact imperial mechanisms.

We should be doing more than we are right now, there is only so much time left. I say that it's "one of the worst" precisely because we cannot afford to fail due to greedy self interest.

[Doozer]

My optimism for the future at this point all depends however Putin’s war in the Ukraine plays out.

[Tadasuke]

There will be gradually more peace and less war as time goes on. Even if Ukraine war results in 0.75 million deaths (unlikely in my opinion), that will be 2 orders of magnitude less than WW2, so there is a substantial improvement. I remain positive. I think that in the XXII century there will be no wars and much fewer murders or rapes. People will spend time in VR, they will not be going outside to kill or rape someone.

[warpmass]

I dunno hopefully the world will still stand by 2060.

[Vakanai]

Depends on how you want to define optimism here. I think that we should have AGI, humanoid robots, cyborgs, and a lot of the amazing sci-fi dreams we've longed for since childhood. The technology is going to improve drastically, and dreams will become reality.

On the other hand I think that over a billion people alive today will have died of famine, war, disease, and climate change - all preventable, or once was, but we just didn't care to do anything about it until it was too late to do so. I also see humanity being divided far worse than now, like Civil War worse kind of divided. Climate change is going to be bad. Fascism will be even more widespread. Nuclear weapons might've seen use.

Basically the only positive thing I see is that technology will be better. Humanity will be worse. Far worse.

[warpmass]

Depends on how you want to define optimism here. I think that we should have AGI, humanoid robots, cyborgs, and a lot of the amazing sci-fi dreams we've longed for since childhood. The technology is going to improve drastically, and dreams will become reality.

On the other hand I think that over a billion people alive today will have died of famine, war, disease, and climate change - all preventable, or once was, but we just didn't care to do anything about it until it was too late to do so. I also see humanity being divided far worse than now, like Civil War worse kind of divided. Climate change is going to be bad. Fascism will be even more widespread. Nuclear weapons might've seen use.

Basically the only positive thing I see is that technology will be better. Humanity will be worse. Far worse.

This post makes no sense you say we will have AGI, etc, ect, etc, but things will be far worse.

[Vakanai]

Depends on how you want to define optimism here. I think that we should have AGI, humanoid robots, cyborgs, and a lot of the amazing sci-fi dreams we've longed for since childhood. The technology is going to improve drastically, and dreams will become reality.

On the other hand I think that over a billion people alive today will have died of famine, war, disease, and climate change - all preventable, or once was, but we just didn't care to do anything about it until it was too late to do so. I also see humanity being divided far worse than now, like Civil War worse kind of divided. Climate change is going to be bad. Fascism will be even more widespread. Nuclear weapons might've seen use.

Basically the only positive thing I see is that technology will be better. Humanity will be worse. Far worse.

This post makes no sense you say we will have AGI, etc, ect, etc, but things will be far worse.

It makes perfect sense to me. Technology is going to be great, but it's not going to stop corporations from trying to make as much money as possible off burning fossil fuels for as long as possible, it won't get fascists out of power, it won't replace capitalism out the gate, it won't solve the climate crisis in a timely fashion (if for no other reason than those with AGI won't put much funding into constructing the solutions that it comes up with), it won't take the food we waste and get it to people who are starving.

Yes, technology can solve all these issues. Robots will grow crops in vertical farms the size of skyscrapers and drones will deliver food freely to everyone - but people will starve before we get over our obsession with profit motives to allow that to happen. Machines will pull carbon out of the air to create wonder materials like diamond, graphene, and graphyne - but we're going to pump so much more carbon into the air this decade, not invest in the infrastructure to deal with rising oceans and increased mega storms and wildfires to reduce deaths before then. Machines will eventually remove the need for a money based society - but those in power today will resist such change and do all that they can to keep this flawed system that allows the horrors of poverty to continue for as long as possible. One day AGI will make most governmental choices for the benefit of humanity - but politicians and despots ruling over millions or billions just for themselves will fight it every step of the way.

It's not technology that's going to make for a piss poor future, it's humanity. Simple greed and egotism from the few, and a willingness to not fight them on it from the masses, has and will bring about horrors. Technology will alleviate and end many of this, when it's ready and when it's allowed to. But it's got to overcome the system of today and the powerful forces it props up. They'll resist it, and it will cost millions of lives while they do. Fascism is rising, prices are soaring, people refuse to be vaccinated or wear masks, and climate change and the war in Ukraine has made millions food insecure with talk of famine this year or next. The next several decades are going to see things get worse in all these human driven sectors. Until humans aren't the main driving force behind these things, there's not much to hope for. Technology is the one bright spot in all of this, but it's not going to solve these issues in an instant, even if it prints out the solutions for everyone in simple step by step instructions. It still takes people to get us there - and many will stand in the way. My long-term view of the future is bright and rosy. Fifty years from now should be the beginning of a new golden age. But the years to get there are gonna be hell.

[warpmass]

Depends on how you want to define optimism here. I think that we should have AGI, humanoid robots, cyborgs, and a lot of the amazing sci-fi dreams we've longed for since childhood. The technology is going to improve drastically, and dreams will become reality.

On the other hand I think that over a billion people alive today will have died of famine, war, disease, and climate change - all preventable, or once was, but we just didn't care to do anything about it until it was too late to do so. I also see humanity being divided far worse than now, like Civil War worse kind of divided. Climate change is going to be bad. Fascism will be even more widespread. Nuclear weapons might've seen use.

Basically the only positive thing I see is that technology will be better. Humanity will be worse. Far worse.

This post makes no sense you say we will have AGI, etc, ect, etc, but things will be far worse.

It makes perfect sense to me. Technology is going to be great, but it's not going to stop corporations from trying to make as much money as possible off burning fossil fuels for as long as possible, it won't get fascists out of power, it won't replace capitalism out the gate, it won't solve the climate crisis in a timely fashion (if for no other reason than those with AGI won't put much funding into constructing the solutions that it comes up with), it won't take the food we waste and get it to people who are starving.

Yes, technology can solve all these issues. Robots will grow crops in vertical farms the size of skyscrapers and drones will deliver food freely to everyone - but people will starve before we get over our obsession with profit motives to allow that to happen. Machines will pull carbon out of the air to create wonder materials like diamond, graphene, and graphyne - but we're going to pump so much more carbon into the air this decade, not invest in the infrastructure to deal with rising oceans and increased mega storms and wildfires to reduce deaths before then. Machines will eventually remove the need for a money based society - but those in power today will resist such change and do all that they can to keep this flawed system that allows the horrors of poverty to continue for as long as possible. One day AGI will make most governmental choices for the benefit of humanity - but politicians and despots ruling over millions or billions just for themselves will fight it every step of the way.

It's not technology that's going to make for a piss poor future, it's humanity. Simple greed and egotism from the few, and a willingness to not fight them on it from the masses, has and will bring about horrors. Technology will alleviate and end many of this, when it's ready and when it's allowed to. But it's got to overcome the system of today and the powerful forces it props up. They'll resist it, and it will cost millions of lives while they do. Fascism is rising, prices are soaring, people refuse to be vaccinated or wear masks, and climate change and the war in Ukraine has made millions food insecure with talk of famine this year or next. The next several decades are going to see things get worse in all these human driven sectors. Until humans aren't the main driving force behind these things, there's not much to hope for. Technology is the one bright spot in all of this, but it's not going to solve these issues in an instant, even if it prints out the solutions for everyone in simple step by step instructions. It still takes people to get us there - and many will stand in the way. My long-term view of the future is bright and rosy. Fifty years from now should be the beginning of a new golden age. But the years to get there are gonna be hell.

So what does this golden age look like to you?

[Vakanai]

This post makes no sense you say we will have AGI, etc, ect, etc, but things will be far worse.

It makes perfect sense to me. Technology is going to be great, but it's not going to stop corporations from trying to make as much money as possible off burning fossil fuels for as long as possible, it won't get fascists out of power, it won't replace capitalism out the gate, it won't solve the climate crisis in a timely fashion (if for no other reason than those with AGI won't put much funding into constructing the solutions that it comes up with), it won't take the food we waste and get it to people who are starving.

Yes, technology can solve all these issues. Robots will grow crops in vertical farms the size of skyscrapers and drones will deliver food freely to everyone - but people will starve before we get over our obsession with profit motives to allow that to happen. Machines will pull carbon out of the air to create wonder materials like diamond, graphene, and graphyne - but we're going to pump so much more carbon into the air this decade, not invest in the infrastructure to deal with rising oceans and increased mega storms and wildfires to reduce deaths before then. Machines will eventually remove the need for a money based society - but those in power today will resist such change and do all that they can to keep this flawed system that allows the horrors of poverty to continue for as long as possible. One day AGI will make most governmental choices for the benefit of humanity - but politicians and despots ruling over millions or billions just for themselves will fight it every step of the way.

It's not technology that's going to make for a piss poor future, it's humanity. Simple greed and egotism from the few, and a willingness to not fight them on it from the masses, has and will bring about horrors. Technology will alleviate and end many of this, when it's ready and when it's allowed to. But it's got to overcome the system of today and the powerful forces it props up. They'll resist it, and it will cost millions of lives while they do. Fascism is rising, prices are soaring, people refuse to be vaccinated or wear masks, and climate change and the war in Ukraine has made millions food insecure with talk of famine this year or next. The next several decades are going to see things get worse in all these human driven sectors. Until humans aren't the main driving force behind these things, there's not much to hope for. Technology is the one bright spot in all of this, but it's not going to solve these issues in an instant, even if it prints out the solutions for everyone in simple step by step instructions. It still takes people to get us there - and many will stand in the way. My long-term view of the future is bright and rosy. Fifty years from now should be the beginning of a new golden age. But the years to get there are gonna be hell.

So what does this golden age look like to you?

I don't know, that's why it's called the Singularity. Technology we might not even be capable of dreaming of or could ever believe could happen in a million years might come true. But I'm hoping for sustainable agriculture that supplies local fresh and healthy food for everyone, taking the carbon out of the atmosphere back to pre-Industrial levels, and peace around the globe with the end of dictatorships and fascism if we are extremely lucky. But those last things might be too hopeful.

[Nicknano]

I am in politics and the millennial generation that is now coming up has a firm grasp on what is coming. This realization that our future is constantly threatened by polices is seeing a movement. We know our only hope is science and helping them progress and not get in their way. I'm interested in how the Hydrogen energy is going to take off in the near future.

[sm_max]

I'm optimistic about the near-term future. Of course, there are always challenges and setbacks, but I think we're moving in the right direction. The main thing is that there should be no war in the world. To overcome covid, and that everyone be alive and well

[bretbernhoft]

"The year is 2040 and the world is a better place. Everyone is more accepting of one another and working together to make the world a better place. Technology has advanced, making life easier and more enjoyable. Even though there are still challenges, people are more optimistic about the future and are working to make it a better place for everyone."

[FrancisJacobi]

I try to be optimistic. On the one hand, I think that there will be a lot of positive changes and progress in technology, medicine and so on. And I hope that it will make our live better. But on the other hand, the situation in the world ( wars, conflicts, fires, hurricanes) make me very afraid about our future.
But I try to be positive and optimistic, and believe in better things