CES 2023

[wjfox]

CES is perhaps the world's most influential tech event. Primarily focused on consumer tech, smart homes, entertainment and leisure, etc. but some overlap with other areas too.

This year it runs from Thursday 5th to Sunday 8th January 2023.

Let's use this thread for news, discussions, and highlights!

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[Vakanai]

I remember when I used to get excited for these shows. Back when smart speakers were new~ish, video doorbells first started appearing, smart lights were new~ish, smart locks were hella new, and security cameras were becoming accessible. Now? It's grown boring, because it's usually...more doorbells, lights, locks, and security cameras. They stopped introducing new things, and the smart home is largely a mature market that's just making minor improvements upon those specific design categories. The most interesting thing to me in CES 2022 was Masonite's "M-Pwr" smart door - and that's literally just taking a video doorbell, smart lock, and smart lights and putting them together in the door!

I know, it's not fair expecting some amazing new product category every couple years or so. There's only so many gadgets and appliances that makes sense to make "smart." Thermostats were big, cameras in everything, automating lights, etc. We've kind of covered about everything now, and making a smart microwave or toaster is...largely pointless (and someone even made the smart toaster! The verdict? Not worth the extra expense). It reminds me of the thread about asking whether you be in a rapidly evolving technological era that's not quite fully advanced yet, or a static but completely advanced society. Static is boring - flip side is the tech is better.

Even though they're somewhat dumb ideas - Astro is a mostly useless toy, just Alexa on wheels, and while the poorly named Always Home Cam is hella cool (autonomous home security drone!) it is (rightly!!!) causing privacy advocates fits because of Amazon's richly deserved poor privacy history - I've been more excited over Apple's/Google's/Amazon's own shows just for the hope they'll announce some moonshot longshot actually "new" thing.

I suppose we're at the technological stage where until humanoid or otherwise robotic servants/slaves are a feasible mass producible thing, the best we can hope for are just camera and speaker improvements, and more companies making doorbells, locks, bulbs, and thermostats.



Moving away from the smart home portion of CES, my main wish, although not likely to come true this year, is in the television side of things. I'd like to see a qd-oled tv in the 35-inch category for under $1000. I know, not gonna happen, but it's what I would like to see. Samsung came out with one last year at the 55-inch size, but it's over $2K so way out of my tv budget.
What I really want to see is microled or maybe qd microled tvs at normal sizes (I think all microled tvs now are in the "gargantuan wall sized" category), but that's still many years off - maybe by 2033's CES.

I'm also interested to see if anything cool comes out in the VR/AR side of things. It's still kind of early days for VR imo, not a mature market/tech yet, so it still has a bit of that "anything can happen" magic to it. But I don't really know enough to have any specific expectations or wishes though.

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^ I think Ameca did deliver

[Vakanai]

^ I think Ameca did deliver

My memory could be wrong, but even though Ameca was at CES 2022 hadn't it already been unveiled before that? I distinctly remember freaking out over Ameca's "waking up" introduction video back in like October or November I think? Definitely feel like it was before CES by a month or so.

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^ I think Ameca did deliver

My memory could be wrong, but even though Ameca was at CES 2022 hadn't it already been unveiled before that? I distinctly remember freaking out over Ameca's "waking up" introduction video back in like October or November I think? Definitely feel like it was before CES by a month or so.

Correct:

[Vakanai]

^ I think Ameca did deliver

My memory could be wrong, but even though Ameca was at CES 2022 hadn't it already been unveiled before that? I distinctly remember freaking out over Ameca's "waking up" introduction video back in like October or November I think? Definitely feel like it was before CES by a month or so.

Correct:

To be fair, it could be fair to count 2022 CES as more of the official introduction, since I think that's when we actually learned more about it's capabilities/specs and it's limitations (no AI [but could one day be a platform for an ai], basically an animatronic puppet, but incredibly high end). But personally I have trouble counting anything we got to see earlier than CES as part of CES (not counting leaks ofc).

Ameca, and that video of the one robot arm, have been the most interesting robots I've seen outside of Boston Dynamic's in well over a decade.
Point of clarity, Sophia (and robots like her) doesn't impress me - her robotics themselves aren't impressive, she can move her mouth and blink, so could my Teddy Ruxpin; and I've seen better humanoid skin/faces on sex dolls as a kid wathing Real Sex on HBO without my parents knowing back in the very early 00's. The only thing imo of note about those robots is the AI, which I think is gpt-3. All those robots really accomplished was to highlight the AI within, and to prove that the Uncanny Valley is very, very real. I don't understand the desire to make robots look exactly like us, especially when the current tech leaves them looking so unnerving. Sophia literally looks like what I expect a killer robot to look like in a horror movie.

Sorry, that last bit is mostly tangent. Truth, if you put Ameca's torso on one of BD's parkour robot's legs, and gave it chat-gpt or gpt-4's ai and showed that off at CES, it'd be the most memorable event of this decade.

[wjfox]

CES 2023: Displace Unveils World’s First Truly Wireless TV 

By Robert Silva
Published 5 days ago

CES in Las Vegas not only includes the latest and greatest TVs from the likes of Samsung, Sony, LG, and other established brands, but it provides a showcase for new companies that can think of out-of-the-box.

Displace, an in-home entertainment startup will debut the world’s first truly wireless TV at CES 2023 next week.

Unlike any other TVs currently available, the Displace 55-inch OLED 4K UHD TVs are powered by a proprietary hot-swappable battery system, weigh less than 20 lbs, can be transported easily, secured to any surface with an extra wall mount required, and use Displace TV’s proprietary active-loop vacuum technology. 

Tip: It is being reported that the OLED panels are made by the LG Display Company for Displace. 

Displace TVs solve many of the common problems associated with large screen flat panel TVs, which can be unwieldy, tedious to mount to walls and cause damage, cluttered with wires, and utilize push button remote controls.

https://www.ecoustics.com/products/disp ... reless-tv/

[Vakanai]

Displace TVs solve many of the common problems associated with large screen flat panel TVs, which can be unwieldy, tedious to mount to walls and cause damage, cluttered with wires, and utilize push button remote controls.

I actually prefer push button remotes over touchscreens, the tactile sense is nice to have.

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Displace TVs solve many of the common problems associated with large screen flat panel TVs, which can be unwieldy, tedious to mount to walls and cause damage, cluttered with wires, and utilize push button remote controls.

I actually prefer push button remotes over touchscreens, the tactile sense is nice to have.

Give us both.

[Vakanai]

Displace TVs solve many of the common problems associated with large screen flat panel TVs, which can be unwieldy, tedious to mount to walls and cause damage, cluttered with wires, and utilize push button remote controls.

I actually prefer push button remotes over touchscreens, the tactile sense is nice to have.

Give us both.

In a sci-fi game I used to play regularly, you're given a sort of smartphone/pokedex like device, and one of it's stated features is a sort of responsive haptic inlay in the screen, allowing it to morph the screen for your touch - basically giving you push buttons in the touch screen whenever it senses your approaching fingertips. I don't think we're anywhere close to this just yet, but I definitely see this as the inevitable future of touch screens one day. Would definitely love to see that at CES.

[wjfox]

I actually prefer push button remotes over touchscreens, the tactile sense is nice to have.

Give us both.

In a sci-fi game I used to play regularly, you're given a sort of smartphone/pokedex like device, and one of it's stated features is a sort of responsive haptic inlay in the screen, allowing it to morph the screen for your touch - basically giving you push buttons in the touch screen whenever it senses your approaching fingertips. I don't think we're anywhere close to this just yet, but I definitely see this as the inevitable future of touch screens one day. Would definitely love to see that at CES.

This is from 10 years ago.

But it didn't seem to take off:

[Vakanai]

Give us both.

In a sci-fi game I used to play regularly, you're given a sort of smartphone/pokedex like device, and one of it's stated features is a sort of responsive haptic inlay in the screen, allowing it to morph the screen for your touch - basically giving you push buttons in the touch screen whenever it senses your approaching fingertips. I don't think we're anywhere close to this just yet, but I definitely see this as the inevitable future of touch screens one day. Would definitely love to see that at CES.

This is from 10 years ago.

But it didn't seem to take off:

And I stand corrected - we could have this futuristic technology today and yet for some reason we don't. What the hell? I would love to have this feature in my phone and tablet! Apple Samsung somebody partner with this company or buy it one already!

[Cyber_Rebel]

Watch 3D Images Leap Out of this Asus Laptop Screen



https://www.cnet.com/videos/asus-ces-la ... -microbes/

The first Avatar film kicked off a wave of interest in 3D televisions and screens after it came out in 2009. That trend ultimately died off.

That is, until CES 2023, where the tech industry is making another push -- coincidentally as Avatar's sequel, Avatar: The Way of the Water, is topping the box office.

"The 3D is generated via a layer of lenticular lenses bonded to it -- to refract the emitted light to different eyes -- and Acer combines it with eye tracking to figure out how to orient the object," writes CNET's Lori Grunin.

The company will likely increase the price of Asus's Vivobook Pro 16X OLED by about $500 when it arrives late this year.

[wjfox]

Nvidia’s latest AI tech can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

Jan 4, 2023, 12:29 PM GMT

Nvidia has turned its AI upscaling technology on a new target: blurry web video. Announced this week during its CES 2023 presentation, RTX Video Super Resolution is designed to upscale video watched through the Chrome or Edge browsers on a PC to the equivalent of 4K. The catch is that you’ll need a relatively modern Nvidia GPU to benefit from the feature, with only its most recent 30 and 40-series GPUs listed as getting support when it releases next month.

In practice, a video demonstration of the tech at work on Apex Legends footage shows edges being sharpened, and video artifacts reduced. Nvidia’s demo shows RTX Video Super Resolution at work on a YouTube video, but its blog post notes that should work on “any video watched in a browser,” which should cover other streaming services like Netflix. PCGamer reports that it supports any video with a resolution of between 360p and 1440p (including typical 1080p video), up to a frame rate of 144Hz.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/4/23538 ... s-4k-1080p

[wjfox]

CES' Best Kitchen Tech: A Fridge Fit for a Party, Smart Cutting Boards and AI Ovens

CES 2023 showcased the best tech to make your time in the kitchen smoother, less stressful and, in one case, more of a party.

Jan. 7, 2023 8:45 p.m. PT

https://www.cnet.com/home/kitchen-and-h ... g-fridges/

[wjfox]

[Vakanai]

CES' Best Kitchen Tech: A Fridge Fit for a Party, Smart Cutting Boards and AI Ovens

CES 2023 showcased the best tech to make your time in the kitchen smoother, less stressful and, in one case, more of a party.

Jan. 7, 2023 8:45 p.m. PT

https://www.cnet.com/home/kitchen-and-h ... g-fridges/

I'm not sure how good of an idea this one is to be honest. The only thing that makes it smart is that there's a detachable tablet that comes with it - and while having a screen in the kitchen is a good idea to look up recipes or watch cooking videos, you can get the same with several Amazon and Google devices (does Apple have a smart home display?). The reason I don't think this device is a good idea is because some people aren't going to think to detach the tablet first, so food is going to get on the screen, never mind the risk of someone accidentally cutting it with a knife. Seems like one of those products that's more about "because we can" than because it's useful.

[Cyber_Rebel]

This Futuristic Toilet Sensor Reads Your Pee to Measure Health
Best of CES: Tracking your health is getting more intimate in 2023, thanks to this smart toilet sensor.



CNET

Smart watches and wearables like the Apple Watch and Oura's Ring series offer plenty of ways to keep tabs on your health. And now, there's a new way to track important health metrics in the works. Imagine getting health data by carrying out a bodily function you do multiple times a day: urinating. Soon you'll be able to do just that with Withings' U-Scan, a sensor that attaches to your toilet bowl and analyzes your urine each day you use it. Withings unveiled the censor this week during CES 2023, the world's largest consumer tech trade show.

Anyone who's ever offered up a urine sample at a doctor's office knows that urine can tell us important things about our health: if we're dehydrated, if we're pregnant, if we have an infection and even the health of some of our organs. Withings is homing in on some of these biomarkers with two different versions of its consumer device, available in Europe in the first half of 2023, with plans for US availability following clearance by the US Food and Drug Administration.

One cartridge made for the U-Scan is meant to monitor nutrition and metabolic information by measuring ketone and vitamin C levels and testing your urine's pH (low or high pH can be associated with kidney health and more).

The second is made for people who want to better track their menstrual cycles, by measuring surges of LH, or luteinizing hormone. LH peaks when ovulation is right around the corner and fertility is likely highest. This cycle cartridge will also measure urine pH.

This reminds me of something I saw speculated on a long time ago, I believe it was Dr. Michio Kaku's Visions of the Future documentary, which went into how we might one day utilize health biometrics and A.I. to measure how healthy we were in almost this exact same fashion. Medicine and general health should become a bit more personalized, so we can make better use of the data from it to make more informed health related decisions.

[funkervogt]

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