Fashion in the 2030s, 2040s

[Tadasuke]

I naively hope (like for everything) for people in the 2030s and 2040s to clothe themselves more decently and elegantly. Not like these days. I don't like current "fashion" and exposing yourself indecently or wearing weird clothes. I don't understand why are people so eager these days to show their bodies instead of clothes (or even worse - to show their tattoos). Human bodies ought to be covered with layers of clothing, because they don't look good enough by themselves to show them off and human body is so frail, that it's better well covered. I hope that some older fashion choices come back. The whole "body positivity" movement is stupid, awful and nonsensical. Someone could tell me that "You watch anime and girls there often wear revealing, daring clothes, so why you say that?". My answer is to not mix reality and fiction. Anime girls are fictional and super cute. Real people are something else. Like you could potentially be whoever you want in VRChat, but you are who you are in real life and you can't change that much. However, I'm all for fitness, healthy dining and even cosmetic surgery (to a reasonable extent). But to be honest, I have no idea what truly future fashion will be. Probably something I won't like.

Examples of appropriate, acceptable, decent apparels from years gone by:

[MythOfProgress]

Not like these days. I don't like current "fashion" and exposing yourself indecently or wearing weird clothes. I don't understand why are people so eager these days to show their bodies instead of clothes (or even worse - to show their tattoos).

well (un)fortunately they aren't dressing for you-they're dressing for themselves, sorry to say not everyone acquiesces to your standards of apparel, some people actually do like their bodies and feel relatively good in it; so if they're not hurting anyone physically i don't see much point to holding shame for them- taking a look at the images, i'm not entirely too surprised those are the images you picked in the first place- says enough on its own that a man had to decide what "his" woman would wear(or not wear) during those times or society's expectations of women in general.

The whole "body positivity" movement is stupid, awful and nonsensical.

you kind of have to explain more as to why this is the case- if you're coming up with a strawman that states that "people want to normalize and accept morbid obesity" you're already coming at this from the wrong angle- it's more so a rejection of idealized body types considering a higher percentage of the female population struggles with body dysmorphia, eating disorders and self-image issues as a result of patriarchal attitudes and behaviors that place a higher emphasis on the ideal body type(thin, hourglass figure with wide hips and narrow waist).

as i said before- it's not about you or how jerk-offable a girl seems to you- it's just giving people some peace of mind when it comes to their figures. that said, i'm not too big(no pun intended) on conflating body positivity with encouraging morbid obesity- so it'd definitely help if you got to look at it from the female perspective.

[peekpok]

Looking at how 80s and 90s fashion elements have made a resurgence and been popular for several years now, its possible that we're not far off from 2000s fashion making a comeback, starting with frosted tips and progressing into goth shit, emo and scene. I'd kinda be looking forward to that, honestly.

[erowind]

I feel obligated to post some examples of clothing in the past being more liberating than the stuffy idealizations posted above. Hopefully the clothing trends of the future keep trending towards greater freedom of expression and body positivity for all.

Pagans in pre-Christian Europe hardly dressed in a way that was restrictive or wholly covered. It's rather impracticable to dress like that while doing any kind of real work for that matter.



Ancient Greek women and men wore a variety of dress depending on the context, there wasn't so much a fear of nudity as there has been these past few hundred years and many cultures over the centuries shared this sentiment. The Greeks in particular often held sports competitions nude.









Might as well throw some makeup in there too. Persian emperors where known to wear eyeliner and colorful ornate dress, don't let them catch you insulting their masculinity over it though, they'd be apt to literally cut your tongue off over such an insult.



And finally a bunch of Mexica clothing from pre-conquest times.

[erowind]

I don't hate all ornate clothing that covers the whole body either. A full dress can be stunning. I love modern hanfu and historical Chinese dress, but it should hardly be mandatory or encouraged for ideological reasons.

[Tadasuke]

I really hate the whole "body positivity" movement. It directly goes against my long held principles and beliefs.

I believe that beauty is objective. We ought to hide what is ugly and display, exhibit what is beautiful. Some people don't get that.

I understand that not everyone shares my ideas, beliefs and preferences. But I wish the future does turn out more pleasing to the eye than the present.

I myself wear practical and modest clothes. Mostly long trousers with pockets, t-shirt and a long shirt with pockets on that. Plus sunglasses and a hat. That's my style.

[erowind]

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[MythOfProgress]

I believe that beauty is objective. We ought to hide what is ugly and display, exhibit what is beautiful.

on some level you're not necessarily wrong, eurocentric beauty standards do seem to dominate most of the market here in the west and even influences social media to some extent, dictating(for lack of a better word) what people see as beautiful or ugly, concurrently i'm sure most queer folk can agree on certain individuals having good facial/body structures even if they're not specially attracted to them. so to expand on your statement, while beauty may be "objective", your attraction to certain features is "subjective".

I understand that not everyone shares my ideas, beliefs and preferences. But I wish the future does turn out more pleasing to the eye than the present.

which is why you have to define who's eyes, yours? mine? society's? not gonna lie and say that there isn't an baseline to be met(as can be indicated by those with pretty privilege or anyone unlucky enough to suffer from lookism; YouTuber Qoves Studio analyses this in some of their videos), but in certain cultures, be they eurocentric, east asian, south asian, afrocentric, etc you'll most likely suffer in some capacity as you may not have a beauty feature that's highly regarded in one of them- making you "ugly" in some capacity.

[40lightyears]

Well, there will definitely be major changes. Of course the basic items will remain, and everything will evolve from there. However, I am sure the colours and designs will surprise us.

[Tadasuke]

If people in the future will look even uglier and weirder than they look today, then I will just never leave the house and do everything through the Internet. Simple as that. I am adamant in my stances and views since the 2000s. Even wrote down them many years ago. I was born to experience reality I thoroughly hate, and I am told to just accept that and be tolerant to nearly everything. How about no?

Probably fashion in the 2030s and 2040s will be more individualistic, even potentially sometimes using 3D printing or customized orders. These days people do wear different (sometimes expensive) clothes, dye their hair, do make-up, get tattoos and piercings. They don't look better because of that. Genetic engineering, medicine, proper fitness, healthy eating/drinking and cosmetic surgeries or treatments (like permanent hair removal) are the only ways to actually look better. Clothes are not you, you are not clothes. Or piercings, or tattoos. They are only additions. Accessories.

[firestar464]

If people in the future will look even uglier and weirder than they look today, then I will just never leave the house and do everything through the Internet. Simple as that. I am adamant in my stances and views since the 2000s. Even wrote down them many years ago. I was born to experience reality I thoroughly hate, and I am told to just accept that and be tolerant to nearly everything. How about no?

Probably fashion in the 2030s and 2040s will be more individualistic, even potentially sometimes using 3D printing or customized orders. These days people do wear different (sometimes expensive) clothes, dye their hair, do make-up, get tattoos and piercings. They don't look better because of that. Genetic engineering, medicine, proper fitness, healthy eating/drinking and cosmetic surgeries or treatments (like permanent hair removal) are the only ways to actually look better. Clothes are not you, you are not clothes. Or piercings, or tattoos. They are only additions. Accessories.

Looks like you're the one who's gonna lose out, not anyone else.

[Powers]

[Vakanai]

If people in the future will look even uglier and weirder than they look today

Pretty judgemental of modern fashion and people's appearances there - not surprising coming from you now though sadly. Why do you find people so ugly now? Is it still just that more people are overweight? I remember you going on about that before.

[firestar464]

I got in touch with some buddies at DARPA, who obviously don't wanna be identified. They gave me access to their time machine, and I went 20 years into the future. Remembering this post, I uhhhh, wanted to see what people were wearing. I managed to snap a pic:



I'm back now. I hope I don't get radiation poisoning

[Tadasuke]

This is how a proper lady could dress in my opinion:

[firestar464]

Being a Jane Austen fan, I do love the dresses. Nevertheless why is assigning dresses to women any of your business?

[Tadasuke]

How (unfortunately) my depressive mind usually sees fashion and obtaining new clothes:

People, by spending money (so their precious limited time), compensate for their unseemly, weak, aging bodies, about which they have little control over, by putting on products produced on mass scale by the fabrics, clothes and fashion industry. They accumulate/hoard those clothes or shoes, pretending these products somehow make them pretty, sexy, happy and fulfilled. Cycle repeats.

Even worse when those clothes had been made by poorly paid poor people in poor countries, while also polluting the environment. I wish my outlook wasn't so negative... It's not much fun living like that, but I really do feel those thoughts say the truth that people often don't want to admit.

[Tadasuke]

Being a Jane Austen fan, I do love the dresses. Nevertheless why is assigning dresses to women any of your business?

Trying to help make the world a bit less distasteful, repulsive, disgusting and detestable. So people like me would find life a bit more tolerable. Of course I know people won't really change their minds because of me. But I won't either because of them.

[firestar464]

Why is your beef with their clothing, not just consumerism then?

Since you believe that women wearing anything other than a dress are "distasteful, repulsive, disgusting and detestable," your mindset is not too different from the Taliban mandating burqas. I can't help but feel you're being deliberately insufferable to women due to your personal life struggles.

[Tadasuke]

Why is your beef with their clothing, not just consumerism then?

Since you believe that women wearing anything other than a dress are "distasteful, repulsive, disgusting and detestable," your mindset is not too different from the Taliban mandating burqas. I can't help but feel you're being deliberately insufferable to women due to your personal life struggles.

I am not treating men and women unequally. Either both of them have compulsory dress codes or none of them have. I personally like school uniforms as well as work uniforms, as long as they aren't low-quality or ugly on purpose.