Cyber_Rebel wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:40 pm
caltrek wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:06 pm
Well, you say "core instincts" and I say to their emotions.
I suppose one could say that it's a similar meaning, these people don't adhere to logical inquiry if it conflicts with their worldview, and rather than challenging that worldview in an open forum, GOP leaders instead stoke those base emotions creating a further environment where logic is dismissed.
Agreed
caltrek: Edit: I am not saying that they are victims or viewed as victims (except perhaps in the sense that those who have been duped are victims), only that we should avoid sweeping generalizations about people and should instead concentrate on ideology and on manipulations carried out by their leadership. I don't think they would like to be viewed as dupes.
Cyberrebel: I might've misunderstood the intent of your post Caltrek, but what would you suggest for the future then of the Republican Party? What would be your ideal outcome if I might ask, assuming such insane rhetoric from their more contentious leadership were stifled somehow?
I am tempted to say the complete abolition of the party is what I would suggest. Still, that leaves the problem of rank and file who identify themselves as Republican. So, in the alternative, perhaps a party that is truly conservative in nature as opposed to reactionary.
Conservative in the sense of being protective of the achievements of liberal society, and not seeking to overturn those achievements. It could be supportive of traditions as long as such traditions do not conflict with protecting the achievements of liberal society. These achievements include the idea that people should be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. It would also involve a full embrace of the thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth amendments to the Constitution of the United States. That would include implementing legislation such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. It would also be more protective of gains made by the LGBT+ community.
Also, conservative in the sense of supporting the conservation of natural resources and therefore sustainable ecological practices. It would take care in the adoption of new technologies careful in assessing the potential for disruptive influences brought on by such development.
Don't mourn, organize.
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